i fail to see the humor

Gwen · #1 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 08:29 AM

i have an issue and i've not discussed this "announcement" with the other mods so if they believe i'm in the wrong feel free to delete this.

i'm finding more and more pictures of islamic women in their burkas (?sp) or shrouds being posted in jest to try to make a sarcastic point. i think this is mocking these women and i find it very offensive. i'd like it to stop. from this point on (unless this thread is deleted) i will be closeing any threads that i see such a picture posted in jest.

there are appropriate places and discussions for said pictures. the most recent places they have been used is not it. if you fail to understand the difference then i ask that you refrain from posting these kinds of pictures at all.

no one's religion (right or wrong in our opinions) should be used as the butt of someone's joke. i know if it were lds standards being used in this way everyone would report the post. yet we have 3 that have been posted recently and not a single report post has been filed on any of them.

it's not humor, it's poor taste.

Hemidakota · #2 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 08:46 AM

Concur...

OneEternalSonata · #3 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 09:44 AM

Agreed.

Loudmouth_Mormon · #4 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 10:35 AM

After 9/11, a local mosque held an open house to show that not all Muslims are rabid terrorists. It was an interesting experience. There was a rather large, imposing black lady there wearing her burka. She told us in no uncertain terms that her clothing and lifestyle was her choice, and anyone daring to call her a downtrodden woman was going to get a bust in the chops. We got the message.

Looking charitably at Islam, at it's core, it is a religion that holds the purity and chastity of woman in very high esteem. We can go on all day about how unhealthy it is when theory meets practice, but at the end of the day, the ideal behind the burka is worthy of respect.

LM

georgia2 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 11:12 AM

Sorry I laughed at one posted on general discussion. What was funny was not the women nor their dress, it was them posing for a portrait and you couldn't see who they were! It could have been anyone!

StrawberryFields · #6 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 12:57 PM

I have not seen these posted but I too would be very offended. Thanks for this thread Gwen.

Vort · #7 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loudmouth_Mormon

After 9/11, a local mosque held an open house to show that not all Muslims are rabid terrorists. It was an interesting experience. There was a rather large, imposing black lady there wearing her burka. She told us in no uncertain terms that her clothing and lifestyle was her choice, and anyone daring to call her a downtrodden woman was going to get a bust in the chops.

It is so good that I was not present. I probably would have told her that the only reason she was saying that is because she was a downtrodden woman.

richlittell · #8 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 10:45 PM

I suggest rather, that we have a censorship board. Saying as one person that you'll delete things that are offensive will be, well, quite unmanageable and simply unfair,
I think if anyone is offended by any post we should have a place where it can be submitted and say a quorum of five moderators (or whatever) can vote on it's deletion. Not all people in or out of the church are for jumping on the "poitically correct" bandwagon. So this will be a difficult thing to balance, I think.

I think if we are not careful, people will just simply be afraid to crack a smile or even engage in gospel topics for fear it could be construed wrong and censored. So no one will come here to socialize or share the gospel.

While I would agree with what has been said so far about the dress, I have never seen such posts except one, and that particular one, if I remember correctly, were women shrouded from head to toe in nothing but black, faces and all, so it was obviously not a true traditional religious dress, and for me, was quite funny in the context that is was given (this is the "sick of cleavage" post). In context, someone had previously posted a large image of an 1800s style of dress and I think that encouraged someone to respond with a post of a second comic image (what they considered comic). I mean, geesh, if I say something bad about or mock Osama Bin Laden, does that mean I'm slamming all Muslims? People have made jokes based upon all kinds issues from the beginning of time till now, and some are offended and some are not. How do we judge? (speaking only of this particular post).

I certainly would be offended if there was an image posted of a posed or real woman in her Muslim dress code, face (eyes) and all. That would be a more obvious case, and I would certainly agree.

Where do we draw the line? I think that should not be any single persons' responsibility,because we do obviously want to uphold the basics of LDS lifestyel (but exactly what is that?) hmmmm Just some thoughts.

pam · #9 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlittell

I suggest rather, that we have a censorship board. Saying as one person that you'll delete things that are offensive will be, well, quite unmanageable and simply unfair,
I think if anyone is offended by any post we should have a place where it can be submitted and say a quorum of five moderators (or whatever) can vote on it's deletion. Not all people in or out of the church are for jumping on the "poitically correct" bandwagon. So this will be a difficult thing to balance, I think.

I think if we are not careful, people will just simply be afraid to crack a smile or even engage in gospel topics for fear it could be construed wrong and censored. So no one will come here to socialize or share the gospel.

While I would agree with what has been said so far about the dress, I have never seen such posts except one, and that particular one, if I remember correctly, were women shrouded from head to toe in nothing but black, faces and all, so it was obviously not a true traditional religious dress, and for me, was quite funny in the context that is was given (this is the "sick of cleavage" post). In context, someone had previously posted a large image of an 1800s style of dress and I think that encouraged someone to respond with a post of a second comic image (what they considered comic). I mean, geesh, if I say something bad about or mock Osama Bin Laden, does that mean I'm slamming all Muslims? People have made jokes based upon all kinds issues from the beginning of time till now, and some are offended and some are not. How do we judge? (speaking only of this particular post).

I certainly would be offended if there was an image posted of a posed or real woman in her Muslim dress code, face (eyes) and all. That would be a more obvious case, and I would certainly agree.

Where do we draw the line? I think that should not be any single persons' responsibility,because we do obviously want to uphold the basics of LDS lifestyel (but exactly what is that?) hmmmm Just some thoughts.

Thanks for your suggestion about a censorship board. We do have moderators who discuss quite heavily between themselves about what actions to be taken. While we don't require 5 to agree we do have a system in place.

I have to agree with gwen. Any kind of jokes that portray or insinuate that the butt of a joke is about a certain race, culture, ethnic background will not be tolerated. Whether LDS or not. Whether "politically correct" or not.

miztrniceguy · #10 (**permalink**) 09-09-2008, 11:13 PM

While I agree that that some of the pictures are offensive in the manner they are posted, why not delete the picture rather than close the entire thread?