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Kyra · #61 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mnn727

And that is proof for you, however its not proof for the entire Church. You are entitled to revelation for yourself and those you have stewardship over, but its not binding on anyone else

I know that. I wasn't trying to say it was a revelation for anyone but myself, and maybe I worded things badly (I often do.) All I meant by sharing something so personal and special to me is that it can be used as a testimony builder on this particular subject.

Elrond · #62 (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 07:36 PM

I don't go so far as to say wife, and I'm not an LDS member, but Genesis says "male and female he created he them" after saying God created "man" in "his" own image.
I also beleive the Holy Spirit is more of a feminine than masculine and is the spirit of wisdom. In Proverbs wisdom is referred to as a "she."
Maybe that's the answer?

MarginOfError · #63 (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 08:06 PM

I know in Russian the word for 'spirit' inherently carries the feminine gender. However, in Russian, most words for abstractions are feminine. Love, mercy, charity, spirit, and things of a non-concrete nature are feminine; that's just the way it is. So the feminism of 'spirit' may be an artifact of the structure of language. Just a thought.

john doe · #64 (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Elrond

I don't go so far as to say wife, and I'm not an LDS member, but Genesis says "male and female he created he them" after saying God created "man" in "his" own image.
I also beleive the Holy Spirit is more of a feminine than masculine and is the spirit of wisdom. In Proverbs wisdom is referred to as a "she."
Maybe that's the answer?

It is a possibility. As far as I know, there has not been a gender assigned to the Holy Spirit in LDS doctrine.

KristofferUmfrey · #65 (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by keky96

were can you show me in the king james bible, that we have a heavenly mother ?

Sure...

Lion of God - David Bruce Clark

You are welcome

Islander · #66 (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 08:47 PM

The assignment of gender to nouns is a linguistic and semantic stylistic issue. In certain languages a noun may be expressed as male when in another language it may be female or even neutral. It has no correlation or religious significance with actual gender. Hebrew language has idiosyncratic linguistic formulas that are clearly anachronistic to us.

For example, they expressed love, caring and mercy as emanating from one's "bowels." For us today, in English "I love you with all my bowels" sounds pretty bizarre. But in classical Hebrew it was actually linguistically accurate.

I suggest that although it may be a mildly entertaining exercise, there is no evidence in the texts that the Holy Ghost or any other member of the Godhead is female. In fact, a certain format for the name of God used in (Hebrew) Genesis, Psalms and Isaiah denote a plural masculine. Most likely we would have to wait until we are across the veil to be privy to such aspects of the nature of divinity.

Wingnut · #67 (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander

For example, they expressed love, caring and mercy as emanating from one's "bowels." For us today, in English "I love you with all my bowels" sounds pretty bizarre. But in classical Hebrew it was actually linguistically accurate.

Hahaha...I'm TOTALLY going to start using that.

Maya · #68 (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 02:18 AM

I just read an interesting article on teh nett about Old Judaism... how they worshipped a woman too in the Temple. It was believed before that the woman worshippers were something else, but the new excavations show otherweis.... Maybe it was in AA papers (Anicent America Foundation). Interesting me thinks.

In finnish we have no genders in words...like a table or a boat they are all it ... no need to think is that female or maskulin.... Even the word he/she is a neutral one. I have to say I have difficulties in Norwegean as they really use those genders a lot and I have NO idea what thing can be he, what she and what it!?

English a-an is a LOT easier!

jolee65 · #69 (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keky96

also why dont you talk about this in your preaching, when mormon mistionarys come knocking on your door ?

I was told during my visit and who am I to say we dont, I dont know that we dont , so that question can be asked both ways show me where they say we dont have a Heavenly Mother.

My husband said its not mentioned or discussed like we would think because he didnt want his wifes name used in vain like people do with the Father and Jesus Christ.

FunkyTown · #70 (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jolee65

I was told during my visit and who am I to say we dont, I dont know that we dont , so that question can be asked both ways show me where they say we dont have a Heavenly Mother.

My husband said its not mentioned or discussed like we would think because he didnt want his wifes name used in vain like people do with the Father and Jesus Christ.

We don't talk about it because it's not doctrine. It's supposition. It's just supposition. Does it make sense? Sure. Is it fact? No.