The Connection Between Mormonism and The Boy Scouts of America?

[Just_A_Guy]

Originally Posted by BenRaines

True there are people that make a living working for BSA.

A very, very good living.

[bytebear]

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

A very, very good living.

I always find it funny how when people try to claim that a certain profession makes a ton of money, they use the CEO as an example. By the way, $250K for the head honcho of a company is not a lot. My company had an interim CEO that worked for 9 months until he sold the company, and then got a $4 million golden parachute. I smell sour grapes.

[Just_A_Guy]

We aren't talking about a company. We're talking about a non-profit, funded to no small degree by donations that a) were solicited by people who were told it was their priesthood duty to solicit said donations; b) were donated by people who frequently (erroneously) thought that the funds would go directly to the local troop; and c) were a precondition for the troop's receiving certain benefits that non-LDS troops receive with no strings attached.

By the way, the article states that people doing equivalent work for other organizations (Girl Scouts, Boys & Girls Club), make about half as much; and from anecdotal experience I understand this to be true of 4-H as well.

[bytebear]

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

We aren't talking about a company. We're talking about a non-profit, funded to no small degree by donations that a) were solicited by people who were told it was their priesthood duty to solicit said donations; b) were donated by people who frequently (erroneously) thought that the funds would go directly to the local troop, and were not informed that THE SAME ORGANIZATION already receives over a hundred dollars per boy per year in registration fees; and c) were a precondition for the troop's receiving certain benefits that non-LDS troops receive with no strings attached.

By the way, the article states that people doing equivalent work for other organizations (Girl Scouts, Boys & Girls Club), make about half as much; and from anecdotal experience I understand this to be true of 4-H as well.

Priesthood duty to donate? Hmm... I must have missed that question in my temple interview.

[lilered]

I have a question concerning Scouting financing and the church.
Does the Scoutmaster and Cubmaster put together an activity plan and then prepare an annual budget accordingly at the beginning of the year similiar to the other organizations of the ward.
If so, who do they submit their activity plan and/or budget requirements to the Bishopric or the Scout Committee for approval.
Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Scoutmaster has a lot of expensive activities planned, who tells him (Bishopric or Scout Committee) that his plan is too expensive or needs some rework.
What I am trying to understand is the relationship between the Scouting Program, The Bishopric, and a good functioning scout committee?

[Just_A_Guy]

Originally Posted by bytebear

Priesthood duty to donate? Hmm... I must have missed that question in my temple interview.

To solicit. In two different wards. Congrats if you haven't had to go through that.

I am astonished that there are people complaining about the Boy Scouts. Maybe we should shut it down and sign them all up with the FHA (Future Homos of America).

***Should that be FALMA (Future Alternative Lifestyle Males of America)? I sure wouldn't want to offend anyone ***

[john doe]

Originally Posted by lilered

I have a question concerning Scouting financing and the church.
Does the Scoutmaster and Cubmaster put together an activity plan and then prepare an annual budget accordingly at the beginning of the year similiar to the other organizations of the ward.
If so, who do they submit their activity plan and/or budget requirements to the Bishopric or the Scout Committee for approval.
Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Scoutmaster has a lot of expensive activities planned, who tells him (Bishopric or Scout Committee) that his plan is too expensive or needs some rework.
What I am trying to understand is the relationship between the Scouting Program, The Bishopric, and a good functioning scout committee?

In the units I have been associated with, all scouting funds were earmarked and distributed out of the ward budget by the bishopric. Every unit's bishop generally has their own formula or priority system on how money is raised and distributed to the various auxilliaries. I have seen incidents where the scouts would hold a fundraiser and the bishop would raid that fund to send YW to girl's camp, I have seen bishops forbid any outside fundraising and allot the scouts/YM a certain amount. Sometimes they will earmark YM funds specifically for scouts, sometimes the scouts operate under the umbrella of the YM.

[ztodd]

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

A very, very good living.

I put this same comment on the deseret news website Just_A_Guy linked to...


I thought the BSA was basically all volunteers- this article puts a damper on on that for me. I'm trying to accept the notion that it's worth paying the big bucks to get the best of the best scout executives, but I just can't get myself to believe that.

I feel that there are many who would gladly volunteer to fulfill those duties who would have those needed skills, and would still put all their heart and soul into it, even though they're not being paid the big bucks for it.

Am I wrong? Is it really that important to get the best of the best when it comes to certain skills, even though those best of the best executives might be there in large part because of the money instead of being in it for the boys?

Do you people realize BSA is a huge worldwide organization? Just because somebody accepts money for something doesn't mean they are only in it "for the money", they have to eat and provide for their families also.