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Hello all! I am really interested in Mormonism, but I really need some questions answered before I can think about joining.

1. Alma 7:10 says that Jesus will be born in Jerusalem, but Matt 2:1 says he was born in Bethlehem.

2. Alma 42:9 says that the soul never dies, but Ezek 18:4,20 says that the soul that sinneth shall surely die.

3. Mosiah 2:41 says that man shall dwell in Heaven, but Psa 115:16, Dan 7:27, and Rev 5:10 says that the saints shall dwell and reign on earth under Heaven.

4. Jacob 6:10 and Mosiah 2:39 say that the wicked shall be in never-ending torment, but Psa 92:7 says that the wicked shall be destroyed forever.

5. The works of Joseph Smith, Lorenzo Snow, and Orson Hyde all state that God was once like men and mortal and elevated to His current position. Jam 1:17 and Mal 3:6 says that God never changes, He has always been.

6. Mormons observe the Sabbath day, but Col 2:16,17, Rom 14:5,6, and Gal 4:10,11 all state that we do not keep the Sabbath and let no one combat you for not keeping it.

7. Mormons have restrictions on meat and drinks, but this goes against 1 Tim 4:4,5, Rom 14:1-4, 17, Col 2:16, 17, 20-22, Mark 7:19.

8. Mormons say that those had not the law will be part of the resurrection, but this goes against Rom 2:12, 1 Thess 4:13, Eph 2:12, and especially Isa 26:14.

These contradictions are kinda holding me back in believing Mormonism. If any one can help remedy these, I would much appreciate it.
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Hello all! I am really interested in Mormonism, but I really need some questions answered before I can think about joining.

1. Alma 7:10 says that Jesus will be born in Jerusalem, but Matt 2:1 says he was born in Bethlehem.

2. Alma 42:9 says that the soul never dies, but Ezek 18:4,20 says that the soul that sinneth shall surely die.

3. Mosiah 2:41 says that man shall dwell in Heaven, but Psa 115:16, Dan 7:27, and Rev 5:10 says that the saints shall dwell and reign on earth under Heaven.

4. Jacob 6:10 and Mosiah 2:39 say that the wicked shall be in never-ending torment, but Psa 92:7 says that the wicked shall be destroyed forever.

5. The works of Joseph Smith, Lorenzo Snow, and Orson Hyde all state that God was once like men and mortal and elevated to His current position. Jam 1:17 and Mal 3:6 says that God never changes, He has always been.

6. Mormons observe the Sabbath day, but Col 2:16,17, Rom 14:5,6, and Gal 4:10,11 all state that we do not keep the Sabbath and let no one combat you for not keeping it.

7. Mormons have restrictions on meat and drinks, but this goes against 1 Tim 4:4,5, Rom 14:1-4, 17, Col 2:16, 17, 20-22, Mark 7:19.

8. Mormons say that those had not the law will be part of the resurrection, but this goes against Rom 2:12, 1 Thess 4:13, Eph 2:12, and especially Isa 26:14.

These contradictions are kinda holding me back in believing Mormonism. If any one can help remedy these, I would much appreciate it.
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Keep in mind the answers you receive here may be opinions and you are taking scriptures from the Book of Mormon and comparing them to scriptures from the Old and New Testament, then asking for clarification. Similar to what Joseph Smith found in the teachings of men and passages in the Bible. Now my question to you; have you prayed about it? Have you prayed about the contradictions in the Bible?
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i have a question...or shall i say request... i'd like to see the site you cut and pasted this list from.
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“It was the rule in Palestine and Syria from ancient times, . . . for a large area around a city and all the inhabitants of that area to bear the name of the city. . . . But this was quite unknown at the time of the Book of Mormon was written. . . . One of the favorite points of attack on the Book of Mormon has been the statement in Alma 7:10 that the Saviour would be born ‘at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers.’ Here Jerusalem is not the city ‘in the land of our forefathers,’ it is the land. Christ was born in a village some six miles from the city of Jerusalem; it was not in the city, but it was in what we now know the ancients themselves designated as ‘the land of Jerusalem.’”
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i have a question...or shall i say request... i'd like to see the site you cut and pasted this list from.
I can pretty much guess where the first question came from. And it will probably be used to discredit my answer to that question. I'll just sit and wait.
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Anyone considering being baptized into the LDS church should be working with missionaries. These missionaries have the ability to answer any questions you have. Ask your missionaries these questions.

If you are not working with missionaries, then please answer Gwen's question.
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3. Mosiah 2:41 says that man shall dwell in Heaven, but Psa 115:16, Dan 7:27, and Rev 5:10 says that the saints shall dwell and reign on earth under Heaven.
I wasn't aware that the Bible teaches that no one goes to heaven. Have you run that one by your pastor?

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4. Jacob 6:10 and Mosiah 2:39 say that the wicked shall be in never-ending torment, but Psa 92:7 says that the wicked shall be destroyed forever.
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2. Alma 42:9 says that the soul never dies, but Ezek 18:4,20 says that the soul that sinneth shall surely die.
While talking to your pastor, why don't you try this "no one ever goes to hell" bit on for size.

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5. The works of Joseph Smith, Lorenzo Snow, and Orson Hyde all state that God was once like men and mortal and elevated to His current position. Jam 1:17 and Mal 3:6 says that God never changes, He has always been.
Yeah. God never changes. He is not now living on the earth in the form of a man; so He must have never lived on earth in the form of a man.

Congratulations. You've just disproved that Jesus ever came to earth.

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6. Mormons observe the Sabbath day, but Col 2:16,17, Rom 14:5,6, and Gal 4:10,11 all state that we do not keep the Sabbath and let no one combat you for not keeping it.
Yeah; the Bible discourages Sabbath-day observance.

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7. Mormons have restrictions on meat and drinks, but this goes against 1 Tim 4:4,5, Rom 14:1-4, 17, Col 2:16, 17, 20-22, Mark 7:19.
The Bible does not condemn gluttony or drunkenness. Got it.

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8. Mormons say that those had not the law will be part of the resurrection, but this goes against Rom 2:12, 1 Thess 4:13, Eph 2:12, and especially Isa 26:14.
So, according to the Bible, little children will not be resurrected.

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I suspect a good many mainline Christians would take issue with your interpretation of the Bible. More to the point, your interpretation is fundamentally irreconcilable with Mormonism.

And frankly, I'm glad of it.

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So Dust, you are quoting Bible verses as supposed contradictions. Are you saying that you are a Bible believing Christian? Or are you just saying that if there's a contradiction between the Bible and the BoM, at least one has to be wrong, which means Mormonism is wrong because it believes both?

1. Jerusalem was both a city and a land. Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem...

2nd Kings 14:20 And they brought him on horses: and he was buried at Jerusalem with his fathers in the city of David.

2. Ezek is talking about spiritual death, or separation from God. That can be forever, but there's a spirit still there to be dead.

3. This is the question that had me wondering if you're Christian or not. You can't find too many Christians who don't believe ya go to heaven when ya die...

4. Psalms uses lots of symbolism.

5. Dunno. I hope to figure this out someday too.

6. You'll have to argue with Christ's followers there. They made Sunday the sabbath shortly after Jesus' death, and it's still going strong today.

7. Are you honestly saying that God will never give dietary restrictions to his people? Sounds like a hard claim to make if you spend any time at all in the OT...

8. We figure everyone gets resurrected, just to different places.

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So tell me, did I help at all?

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