Who was God the Father's "wife"?

[Misshalfway]

Originally Posted by mnn727

WHAT?! Thats news to me and about 13 million other Mormons

That should be good news cuz we don't believe in immaculate conception.

[Just_A_Guy]

Yep. Immaculate Conception = conception of Mary, not Jesus.

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Originally Posted by fatima

Can we assume He was married? Marriage is one of the things required for exultation?
If He was married during His time on earth, what of His wife, and what does your theology say about God "relationship" (sorry, don't know what to call it) with Mary, who became the mother of His Son?
TIA

IMO God's wife is "the Love of God" who sheds Herslef forth upon the hearts of all mankind with the help of the Holy Spirit.

[I]Romans 5:5 ...the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
(New Testament | 5)

Here is a great article:
http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/MotherInHeaven.pdf

Here is a hymn about Her:
YouTube - Mormon Tabernacle Choir sings "O My Father"

text: http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.d...m#JD_Hymns.292

292
O My Father
Fervently

31243, Hymns, O My Father, no. 292

1. O my Father, thou that dwellest
In the high and glorious place,
When shall I regain thy presence
And again behold thy face?
In thy holy habitation,
Did my spirit once reside?
In my first primeval childhood
Was I nurtured near thy side?

2. For a wise and glorious purpose
Thou hast placed me here on earth
And withheld the recollection
Of my former friends and birth;
Yet ofttimes a secret something
Whispered, “You’re a stranger here,”
And I felt that I had wandered
From a more exalted sphere.

3. I had learned to call thee Father,
Thru thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav’ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I’ve a mother there.

4. When I leave this frail existence,
When I lay this mortal by,
Father, Mother, may I meet you
In your royal courts on high?
Then, at length, when I’ve completed
All you sent me forth to do,
With your mutual approbation
Let me come and dwell with you.

Text: Eliza R. Snow, 1804–1887

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some more old stuff...
some ramblings about trees, and the mystery of God, ...

13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.
14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.
15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.
16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand ariches and honour.
17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.
18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.
(Old Testament | Proverbs 3:13 - 18)


you know how Jewish people do things like write G-d, refuse to say the Lord's name, etc. etc.. so we have all of these names used for Jesus - he is the Lamb, the Bread of life, etc. etc...

She has many names too...

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21 ...Knowest thou the meaning of the tree which thy father saw?
22 And I answered him, saying: Yea, it is the love of God, which sheddeth itself abroad in the hearts of the children of men; wherefore, it is the most desirable above all things.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 11:21 - 22)

I guess perhaps the above is all I should really post on it.

She is a very VERY sacred topic obviously. Before we are told to ask, we are told:

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
(New Testament | Matthew 7:6 - 7)


1 MY son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine aheart to understanding;
3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
5 Then shalt thou understand the afear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
(Old Testament | Proverbs 2:1 - 7)


35 Marvel not that I said unto you: Here is wisdom, show it not unto the world—for I said, show it not unto the world, that you may be preserved.
36 Behold, I do not say that you shall not show it unto the righteous;
37 But as you cannot always judge the arighteous, or as you cannot always tell the wicked from the righteous, therefore I say unto you, hold your bpeace until I shall see fit to make all things known unto the world concerning the matter.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 10:35 - 37)


you get the point - the above indicate that we are not to talk about Her - as the tree of life in Eden was veiled, as women are veiled on their wedding day, She is veiled to most right now. She exists, you can study, ponder, pray, and come to find Her, but it is a very personal study, for those who are ready for it, for those who know what it is to be led by the Spirit, and are able to recieve revelation on it.

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sorry - time for another to post on the thread. I love Heavenly Mother, She is one of my fave topics... (but then I am a female).

PM me if you want some more ideas on the sub.... I cannot say everything, I can perhaps send some 'hints' though.

[fatima]

Originally Posted by Just_A_Guy

To clarify (just in case this is what Fatima was hinting at): There is nothing in LDS theology to back up any notion that Mary was a human incarnation of Heavenly Mother.

Nor do Mormons accept the idea of Mary's immaculate conception.

No, I was not hinting at anything. Just trying to figure out why God would have used another woman, as it were, to give birth to His Son.
If Jesus is not God Incarnate, as Trinitarian Christianity holds, then Jesus must've been half-and-half, I guess. A demi-god as in mythology.
I apologize if that comes across as insulting, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to put it in terms that I can understand.

[hordak]

If the proclamation on families is doctrine then...

All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents

God has a wife

By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children.

Fathers provide things, mothers provide comfort

Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose

This gender identity and role carries on to the next life.

Now speculation.

Who is a member of the Godhead, provides comfort and Jesus was conceived by?

[mnn727]

Originally Posted by Dravin

Immaculate conception probably isn't what you are thinking it is, most assume it's talking about Christ being born of a virgin (Virgin Birth), that isn't what is entailed by that doctrine. Immaculate Conception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are right, I always thought it meant Christs conception -- hmm, learn something new every day.
Thanks

[Just_A_Guy]

Originally Posted by fatima

No, I was not hinting at anything. Just trying to figure out why God would have used another woman, as it were, to give birth to His Son.
If Jesus is not God Incarnate, as Trinitarian Christianity holds, then Jesus must've been half-and-half, I guess. A demi-god as in mythology.
I apologize if that comes across as insulting, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to put it in terms that I can understand.

No offense taken.

Per Mormon theology, Jesus was indeed God incarnate. Basically, there are three beings in the Mormon godhead--Elohim (God the Father), Jehovah (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. All of them existed prior to the Creation; but only Elohim at that time had a physical body--the other two were spirits only; in the form of men but without physical substance (actually, there's a Mormon teaching that even spirit is a form of highly refined matter; but we can leave that aside for the present discussion). Moreover, the Being that most of the Old Testament prophets dealt with was, in fact, Jehovah.

The birth of Jesus represented Jehovah coming to earth in bodily form--so Jesus of Nazareth was indeed God incarnate. I'd be a little uncomfortable classifying Jesus as a "demi-god", because that would seem to imply that a) Jesus would remain forever as an "imperfect" sort of god, and b) Jesus' existence began at the time of His birth in Bethlehem. Neither notion, per Mormon theology, is correct.