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Old 06-26-2012, 03:38 AM
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So my fiance and I got engaged at the beginning of May and we're very much in love. But she's beginning to have doubts - although to be honest, it's the same re-occurring doubt. It took her over a month to finally say yes, and there's a very specific reason for that. In her patriarchal blessing it says something along the lines of, "you will recognize the man you're to marry from the pre-mortal existence." She keeps going back and forth on whether or not we should be married; one days she is crazy excited about getting married and the next day she is very worried. But it all stems back to her uncertainty of what her patriarchal blessing really means. How will she receive confirmation that I am that guy? And per chance I'm not, how would she ever receive a confirmation from any guy? She has fasted and prayed about this, but she's still not sure she's received a definite answer one way or the other. I've told her that she can take as long as she wants - I don't want her to rush into marriage if she's having any doubts. I feel that this statement from her patriarchal blessing might have some sort of interpretation that we haven't considered before. Any thoughts, ideas, or advice would be greatly appreciated. By the way, she doesn't really want to consult a church leader on what this might mean. I think she feels that she needs to figure it out on her own with the aid of the spirit. But I do believe she's willing to listen to my opinion on this.
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:48 AM
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A month is not that long to consider a choice of such magnitude, but one should consider whether or not she has the maturity to decide on her own. Prayers, friends as well as family input is healthy, but if thats what took her a month to glean, then you are one patient fellow.

I played this commitment game for three years with my fiancee while doing 75% of the chasing and I was an option half the time, despite being the love of her life. At the end of it all, she still ran away. Sure, I have issues and so does she, but I was willing to commit to hers, while she wasn't willing to commit to mine.

Best wishes to you two and I hope you aren't doing all the chasing.
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Old 06-26-2012, 06:11 AM
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My patriarchal blessing says, "...you will be guided to a young lady who is also asking Father in Heaven for guidance and direction. And as you meet, you will know you have been waiting for her and she for you." Well from the blessing it may appear that it should have been all be roses from the time we met to the time we were married. However, it didn't quite turn our that way.

As we dated and began to get more serious I had difficulty committing. I was feeling pressured and finally told her one night that we needed to take a break from each other. She was devastated. Weeks went by... one day I was coming out of institute. As I was walking to my car I received thoughts which were some of the clearest revelation I have ever received. I was thinking about our relationship and this feeling and thoughts came to my head. In essence it was something like, "What are you doing? Why did you let go of this wonderful woman? She will help you on your journey through life and beyond." Anyway, these and other thoughts came. It was clear. We got back together and in a few weeks were were engaged. A few months after that we were married. It's been eleven years this month. I can honestly say it was the best decision of my life. We have such a wonderful relationship.

Often faith requires action and then the Lord then gives the answer. Elder Carmak of the 70 described it as the, "ready, fire, aim approach". In essence we make a decision and move forward with confidence trusting that the Lord will make known his will. As we do so we give faith the room it needs to breathe. In my case I made the wrong decision but the Lord knew what was right. I was guided back to the right path.

Now, I don't know what the right path is for your fiancé. I would give her room as it appears you have done. It also appears she has made at least a tentative decision to be married. If the decision has been made this would not be the time for doubt and fear in the Lord. I believe He will answer as she moves forward with faith in Him. If I were you I might pray that she recieves the answer the Lord has in store for her. You will have to have confidence in the Lord and in her ability to recieve an answer from him.
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I've seen that smile somewhere before!

Just teasing, not making fun. If it's of any comfort, 98% of engaged couples have second, and third, and fourth thoughts. I certainly did. It's an almost universal reaction. Your fiancee needs to take her worries to the Lord and then be of firm mind. You can help her in this process (but not by bluntly blurting it out). Best of luck!

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When it was time for me to choose a wife i choose one then asked to lord to bless my marriage and give me guidence, because my wife was the one i am to marry. I dont belive heavenly father tells us who to marry that goes opposite of agency.
I feel that your fiance is having dougt because see seems to be in love with the idea of getting married, not about the married life it self.
BUT you stay in there if you want to marry this one BUT the doubt could linger and you may find your self getting devorced.
most mormons have it wrong your are supposed to date for 3 month then go to a dance and at the dance propose after a donny osmund song not propose after a donny osmund song and be engaged for 3 months because it changes the dynamics of the relationship were your caught up in the love of getting married and not the marriage it self.

well good luck.
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Heavenly Father doesn't decide who we are to marry. He leaves that decision up to us. My favorite author said when he prayed about if he should marry a specific girl the feeling he got was "I have no objections. Maybe it will work out." (paraphrased)

As Vort referenced Saturday's Warrior gave us some false doctrine. I hope your fiance figure out that its really her choice. She gets to decide.

I wish you both the best.
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You can help her in this process (but not by bluntly blurting it out). Best of luck!
With my wife I made sure to let her work through her worries and concerns, to the point I wondered if we would even get engaged. Now for the most part the heavy worrying was done before engagement not during, but despite my desires that we get married 'Now! Now! Now!' I'm glad I decided long before that I wouldn't pressure her. You see it occasionally on some of the threads here, people who feel they were rushed or pressured into to marriage. So instead I did the best I could do to support her search for an answer without trying to lay on pressure which wouldn't have helped and really could have easily become an additional point of worry.
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"you will recognize the man you're to marry from the pre-mortal existence."
Well who knows what this means. It could be refering to her furture 2nd, 3rd or 4th husband.

Hopefully she won't get too hung up on this, but it sounds like she is already. I think we can probably say we knew everybody in the pre-mortal existence, we may not have that capacity now but I'm sure we did prior to the veil. There is no predestination expecially when it comes to marriage.

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..some additional thoughts.

Even if a couple comes together escorted by angels trumpeting a great eternal reunion of two noble star crossed souls, the marriage is going to take just as much work and effort as a couple chosen by monkeys throwing darts at a list of names..perhaps more. IMHO.
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I was the fiancee that was having doubts. What helped me was insisting my fiance (now husband) to seek help for his own insecurities, and, for myself, making myself realize all his good qualities and how much I wanted to be married to him.
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