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01-19-2009, 03:38 PM
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around here it's getting more common for the men to take the little ones out in the hall or during priesthood and sunday school than it used to be. which i think is wonderful.... but i think the women still get stuck with the diapers. i don't want it to sound like my husband doesn't change diapers, he does change them but when we are out and about it usually becomes my job.
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01-19-2009, 03:40 PM
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now in the wards I have visited with one isn't that were the changing space is? I have issues with that too men should be allowed to change their babies, in our branch the changing space in the back of the ladies loo, wondering if that will change now our branch president has a baby due
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The latest design buildings do have bathroom changing stations in the mens room. If it is an older building, there are some that I had seen did not.
If anyone building does not have a mother's room, talk to the Building Bishop and see if there is space for this.
In the past, my beloved companion nurse each of our eight children during church hours. It was a comfort me, she can do this and I can at times, play an active role in switching off with her when changing diapers.
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01-19-2009, 04:04 PM
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I remember a thread about this I had posted intially, when someone had said about men getting turned on, my husband was his usual self and commented maybe there should be also be a room for the man who can't cope,
-Charley
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01-19-2009, 04:30 PM
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this just seemed to fit here..... lol taken from.... Robert Fulghum, OFFICIAL Website, see NEW stories!
PART THREE - ALLEY OOPS - A PERK OF NOTORIETY
And now for something completely different. A small encounter while out walking yesterday thinking about writing this journal.
Early morning, not long after daybreak.
I’m about twenty blocks from home in a residential neighborhood on the other side of Queen Anne Hill from where I live. Carrying a full load of coffee, I forgot to take a prophylactic pee before I left my house, and now the pressure is building. I will never make it home in time.
Optimistically I hustle down to a Porta-Potty in front of a construction site. Locked. A small park a block away looks promising, but it’s full of the morning dump-the-dog people. It’s socially acceptable for dogs to do their awkward business in public, but old guys whizzing behind a tree is not.
Now I’m getting desperate.
At the first alley I come to I urgently scope out some possibility - maybe between garbage cans - maybe behind an open garage door - maybe wedged in behind a telephone pole. No, no, and no. All too public.
Finally, further up the alley, it’s ohmygod time and I carefully squeeze into some blackberry bushes and empty my bladder up against a fence in a stream a small horse would be proud of. I laugh and sigh in relief.
“All better?” a sweet voice asks.
Stunned, I look up to the back of the house to which the fence belongs.
A young woman is sitting in a porch swing nursing her baby.
She giggles. “It’s alright,” she says. “I understand.”
“It’s like nursing,” she says, gesturing down at her exposed breast.
“It’s a very human thing to do.”
“Thanks,” I say, with a nervous laugh.
“Actually,” she says, I know who you are. You’re that kindergarten guy, right? I’ve read your book. But I won’t tell anybody that you peed on my fence. In an odd way, I’m honored.”
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01-19-2009, 04:58 PM
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Hmm good post Gwen I find it interesting that during the period of time women were not allowed to breastfeed in public it was legal for a pregnant woman to pee anywhere in Scotland
-Charley
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Hmm I never thought about it til now
I discretely nurse my son in the chapel.. No one has ever said anything.. in fact I bet if you asked most don't even have a clue we do it..
personally I am much more offended by those talking amongst themselves, playing with cell phones, misbehaving children..... than I would be by a baby eating.. no matter if it be a breast, bottle or handful of cheerios.
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I would much rather have a mother breastfeeding her infant in church that someone cutting their fingernails in Sacrament meeting. Clip, clip, clip.
I hope no one is offended when I break wind in church. It is a natural function and a whole lot of work to go to the bathroom for just a little gas.
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01-19-2009, 09:45 PM
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We send in the Aaronic priesthood into the mothers lounge to serve the sacrament. If they have no problem with 12 year olds being around nursing mothers, then missionaries should be fine also.
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01-20-2009, 09:02 AM
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I thought she was covered but I guess I was wrong, my daughter sat just of the right of her , I sat right behind her , I told my daughter about the thread I started she wanted to know what everyones thoughts were, as I read my and some of yours she informed me that she didnt cover ,when we had to sing we were asked to stand and im sure the mom didnt expect that ,but my daughter had a birds eye veiw of her whole breast and the baby latched on.
I think for someone not being in that situation with having the mind set that pregnancy and child birth puts a woman in its hard to put yourself in the mothers shoes.
I think asking a person to equally compare a baby slurping on a bottle verses a breast is non sense
and to expect a persons thoughts not to go to places it shouldnt is also non sense. They didnt just give birth, there in a totally different place.
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Hemi raised a good point: In this day and age, there are a lot of Dads who are tending to small babies who might fuss during Sacrement. If you will for lack of a better term being "mister mom". Should the
Mothers lounge be off limits to them, even though they might be bottle feeding, changing the baby, etc.? Our ward has no special place for changing babies except perhaps the couches in the foyer.
My view on mothers nursing in the chapel. I have never witnessed a mother nursing that hasn't done so. by properly covering herself from inquisitive eyes. To me, its her baby, her body, and her decision.
God bless Mothers, we need more to show up in church with their families.
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