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Old 02-09-2009, 07:58 PM
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Go ahead and disgree with me and I did not say "all [males] are sexual deviants" please don't put words into my mouth. Go re-read what I said about being a higher risk factor when it comes to that. It's a fact.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:12 PM
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I didn't say all either.. I said based on your post

how sad that you think you all are sexual deviants waiting to happen. We had better no let our children alone with their fathers also....

I agree to disagree with you on this one.


This based on your post statistically speaking... not ment to offend but I feel I have......
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Right, sorry I forgot the "..." first in the quote but u did say all in that quote. Let me show u what I mean:
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how sad that you think you all are sexual deviants waiting to happen.
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We had better no let our children alone with their fathers also....
which carries with it the implications that you are saying all males. Am I wrong in what you were saying in that quote? I'm not offended Prospectmom I just don't like people putting words in my mouth that I didn't say or have any good rationale for saying that I implied without any support. We're cool Prospect :yinyan:
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Thanks for the breakdown.... I can see where you are coming from.... How you read it not exactly how I ment it can I try again.....
I realize the stats... Does that mean we shouldn't leave our children alone with men givin the statistics... Does that phrase what I was thinkin better than what I said previously... I want to understand you and I want to be understood..... :}
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Stats are to be considered for sure not that they ought not be left with men in general. I'd trust me with them and some other guys but I have also work with incarcerated males that were pedophiles.
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I agee some men I wouldn't trust my dog with but I have met many a fine man who are sometimes so much more fun than us girls:} I use to teach youth protection in scouting and so know the stats I kinda want to not dwell on the bad , but you are right there also is the fact as a man you have to be xtra dillegant not to be misunderstood in situations with kids. All my training/training coming back.....
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I'm not saying that no one should, but I personally wouldn't leave my kids with men just because of all of the bad experiences I have had. Of course, some men are great with kids - even better than a lot of women, but I would never want to falsely accuse anyone of anything. I was molested by my cousin during a family Christmas party, violated by my gym teacher, and by a male doctor, a friend of mine was raped by her step-dad for years, my friend's sister was sexually abused by their neighbor for years, my best friend's dad was dragged into a guy's house and raped while he was selling stuff for a fundraiser as a boy, my mom was molested by her dad's best friend and her uncle, my husband's old friend's dad abused his daughter most of her life, and sadly not last (there are more), two very sweet boys in my ward were sexually abused by their coach, who the parents thought was absolutely wonderful because he befriended the family. You just can't tell by looking at a person what they are capable of. Maybe it's just not spoken of as often, but rarely do I hear about women sexually abusing children. I do know it happens. My experiences have caused me to be very careful about leaving my kids with men. I know I can trust my dad and brother because I grew up with them, but I am cautious even with good friends. Recently I flipped out because my friend offered to watch my kids and when I got back, she was gone and had left them with her husband without asking me first.

There could be enough people out there who would leave their kids with men that you would be very successful.
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Thanks for the replies.

And I would like to say as a parent i can certainly understand the need to protect ones children but this line of thinking is what we need to get away from as a society IMO.

It's like saying I know all blacks are NOT rapist , but in my neighborhood the majority of rapist are black so if i keep my daughter from dating them all together she will be safer.

It is a horrible mindset to have.
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I have a day care in my home. Here is a recent thing that happened that made me raise my eye brows.

A mother of three kids who I watched wasn't comfortable with my husband watching her kids without my being here because he was a man. Eventually gave her notice that I wasn't going to be able to watch the kids anymore. The first day of the new provider watching the kids I dropped them off at her house. The mother had never even met her before, or been to her house.

I would rather have a man I know and trust watch my kids than a female stranger.

I was raised by my dad until I was 10. He did a great job.

I wouldn't let my kids go to someones house unless I know everyone in that family, kids and husbands and aunts, anyone who lives there.

I would consider a 'daddy daycare' right along with the rest. The parents of the current kids I watch are very comfortable with my husband. One of the kids moms came to me because she met my husband at work and liked him and asked him if he had ideas for day care.

Ignoring the possibility of someone harming or molesting your kids would be stupid. I feel very fortunate that the spirit can be our guide, regarless of the gender of the people we meet.

Also, there is a neighbor who we have who's house I don't like my son going to because I feel uncomfortable about their 12 year old son. Nothing he has done has warrented this, but I just don't feel right about it. If I question this forever, I'll come to the conclusion that I have no reason to be uncomfortable. If I listen to my 'intuition' I won't let him go over there.
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We have to listen to our own personal promptings... sometimes I don't know the reasoning behind my promptings but I always am glad I did listen.

On the otherside of this daycare thing daddy or mommy you subject yourself and family to possibly all kinds of problems....... Be very careful to protect yourself as a provider also.
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