CALL-OUT From Littlebrother

[Mullenite]

CALL-OUT From Littlebrother:
(email sent to me 2/14/07 regarding the dreams of an impending huge snow storm to hit Utah)

"My guess is that this will occur in the winter of 2008-2009, after the great hailstorm (1st trumpet) and meteor cast into the sea (2nd trumpet) accompanied by great earthquakes. Invasion of USA by January 1, 2009 on the coasts/warmer areas. The snow will protect Utah from invasion until later. Invasion of USA marks start of 3.5 years of tribulation which end July 2012... the end of the "seven years of famine" mentioned by the Prophet Hinckley. Then comes at least 28 years of missionary work + building the New Jerusalem, etc. Then the Second Coming in or after the year 2040.
(Just my ideas.)"

Readyforit:

I agree that the U.S.A. get invaded near the end of 2008 and that the 3.5 year rule of the BEAST goes from the end of 2008 to about April 2012.

I am also confident that the U.S. economy collapes in October 2008 followed by an immediate establishment of MARTIAL LAW.

What I am still unsure about is will there be a 2 month lag between the imposition of the martial law and the invasion or a 14 month lag between the two. If the invasion by China and Russia occurs only two months after the U.S. economy collapses and martial is imposed, then the economic collapse will happen October 2008 and we won't get "called-out" until early summer 2008. However, if the invasion occurs 14 months after the martial law/collapse, then the "call-out" could happen this very summer.

Is it possible for a "call-out" to happen this summer (2007). The way Bush, Iran, and Israel are talking, yes. If we have military conflict with Iran in the next 10 weeks, things will happen fast regarding the economy falling apart (high oil prices, increasing interest rates, deterioration of housing market, decreased business profitability, increased layoffs, a rapidly depreciating dollar/shift of currency away from the dollar, etc., etc.). So-called "terrorist" strikes could then occur late summer as the Islamic world retaliates against the U.S., Britain, and Israel. The economy could feasible collapse completely by October.

Martial law would then need to need enforced late October. The Utah earthquakes (the first 2) would also happen in October. Other natural disasters could compound the situation and lead to bankruptcy for insurance companies.

The times of chaos and mobacracy could follow and last for over a year as China, Russia, and whatever New World Order forces under the U.N. umbrella prepare to take advantage of the siuation and the downfall of the U.S. As we speak, China and Russia probably have no plans whatsoever to invade the U.S. by the end of 2008. I think the plans to invade will evolve after we have already fallen--they will shift their priorities, move up their timetables, increase the rapidity of their preparations, and attack about a year after the economic collapse and chaotic period plaguing the U.S..

Based on this scenario, which could happen, we only have 10 weeks of "normal" preparation time left.

Regarding the Church's readiness, another post asserted that the Church already has places of refuge prepared for 500,000 saints (just in Utah?) and the earthquake upgrades are supposedly about done. So, don't dismiss the possibility of a "call-out" happening Summer 2008.

[Palerider]

wwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt! !!!!!

[Kirajo]

So this is like a.....educated guess? Hahah

[Mullenite]

Recreation Properties for the Call-out

Heber Valley Camp for LDS Young Women and Families

http://bigo.byu.edu:8085/MRP-UTNO/CampInfo.jsp

http://bigo.byu.edu:8085/MRP-NANW/CampInfo.jsp


I believe that there will be some sort of "call out" of the faithful. I believe that there will be a people come from out of this people, people who will be faithful to their covenants, diligent in keeping the commandments, and who will hearken to the counsel of the prophets of God.

Whether this "call out" will be directly from the President of the Church or by the Spirit I do not know. It will probably be some combination of both.

Some years ago, I was prompted about a place ( Idaho Falls) where there will be at least two "Stakes of Refuge." These will not only be places of temporal refuge but of refuge from the cat-calls and persecution heaped upon the faithful by the faithless and unbelieving members of the Lord's church. The Stake and Ward officers in these Stakes of Zion will have the Spirit, having been born again and able to pray and get answers. They will understand, help and encourage the humble followers of Christ as they strive to be worthy of the surpassing blessings which a just and merciful God wishes to give them.

Places of refuge will be different in different parts of the country. Some of the Saints will stay where they are (temporarily) and PROVIDE a place of refuge for those fleeing from dangerous and wicked areas. I believe that as few as 10% of the "members of record" in Utah, for instance, will survive the cleansing of the Church because they HAVE NOT and WILL NOT hearken to the prophets of God, much less the promptings of the Spirit, being unworthy of the latter. When will this all happen? I do not know, except that it will probably be sooner than later.

War, consequently followed by disease, famine, riot, and famine, will sweep the land clean of its inhabitants. They are going to "die like flies."
More could be said on this topic, but this should suffice.

[Palerider]

I am digging my bomb shelter as we speak....

[john doe]

Originally Posted by Mullenite

CALL-OUT From Littlebrother:
(email sent to me 2/14/07 regarding the dreams of an impending huge snow storm to hit Utah)

"My guess is that this will occur in the winter of 2008-2009, after the great hailstorm (1st trumpet) and meteor cast into the sea (2nd trumpet) accompanied by great earthquakes. Invasion of USA by January 1, 2009 on the coasts/warmer areas. The snow will protect Utah from invasion until later. Invasion of USA marks start of 3.5 years of tribulation which end July 2012... the end of the "seven years of famine" mentioned by the Prophet Hinckley. Then comes at least 28 years of missionary work + building the New Jerusalem, etc. Then the Second Coming in or after the year 2040.
(Just my ideas.)"

Uh, 'the Prophet Hinckley'? I'm guessing that this person isn't a member of the LDS Church, I have never heard of anyone in the church referring to him as such. Also, can you point me to the "seven years of famine" quote referred to here?

[Mullenite]

Doesn't it also make you wonder.... Why aren't the leaders of today talking about all the prophecies of the last days and all the bad things that will happen to those who aren't prepared?

Oh wait.. are they..

I wonder if Noah was upset because the revelation to build an ark came as such a surprise.. I mean, nobody was talking about arks in those days.... But they were sure preaching doom and gloom to those who didn't repent, and them suddenly.. WHAMO.. Noah's supposed to build this ark.. totally out of the blue!!

I wonder if Nephi was upset... the prophets in those days weren't exactly preaching that those who didn't want to be destroyed should flee to North America. Nothing like this was being taught, but the prophets in those day were sure preaching doom & gloom to those who wouldn't repent. Also, it sure would have made their life a lot easier if the Lord had told them what was going on so they could just bring the plates of brass with them on the first time around -- however, the Lord was clearly testing the faith of Lehi's family to see if they would obey blindly, not having a full knowledge as to why.

And here we have a repeated pattern... prophets telling us the signs of the last days are being fulfilled. We know bad things are coming. We know there's a "portent of stormy weather coming to which we had better take heed", but no escape plan has been laid out -- except that the prophets have said that those who are prepared spiritually AND TEMPORALLY will be protected... But they don't say how.

That shouldn't be surprising... the "escape plan" for the righteous has never been discussed in advance in any scriptural context I've found. If you've got an example that proves otherwise, I'd love to hear it. The pattern of the Lord seems pretty clear -- destroy the wicked, but invite the righteous to leave at the last second.

What I hear the leaders doing is pleading.. BEGGING the members to get their food storage and get out of debt. BEGGING them to get themselves to a spiritual position where they can receive personal revelation from the Lord. Once you've reached that personal position, why would you bother tying to debunk something like a "tent city" -- you can know for yourself. If the Lord tells you they're not for you -- then they're not for you. (Maybe you're going to die before they happen? Maybe you'll be called to stay behind for some reason? Maybe tent cities aren't real at all?) once we have our personal witness as to whether or not tent cities are relevant for us and our families, we can stop this nonsense of always questioning the idea. The Lord will tell us if there's anything interesting in this for us. But he won't tell us unless we ask.

With this in mind, why SHOULD the prophet tell us about tent cities? What good could come of it? If this is truly a test of faith for the saints, then what good could possibly come from the prophet standing up and declaring that it was going to happen? How much faith would it take to obey the commandment to get food storage or get out of debt if the prophet stood up and screamed from the pulpit the reasons for this?

Do you understand the dilemma? Sometimes the Lord puts forth tests of our faith and waits for us to obey blindly. The ultimate test of faith is in the saint who will do whatever the Lord asks, not knowing why, save the Lord hath commanded it. No test of faith of this magnitude can begin with an explanation. That sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? No faith in obedience would be required if everyone knew the plan. If the purpose of the last-days and the tribulations is to refine the saints and prepare them to meet Christ, the Lord is going to expect big things from us. Blindly obeying a last-minute request from a prophet seems like the kind of thing that foots the bill, from a scriptorial standpoint. On the other hand, having years of advanced notice and repeated discussions and lectures from the prophet about the plans for saving the faithful saints would require virtually no faith to obey. The people who would "obey" under those circumstances would be no more prepared to meet Christ than the Israelites who wandered in the wilderness for 40 years because they would only obey the gospel is every letter of detail was spelled out.

[john doe]

Mullenite, YOU (or whoever YOU quoted) made the claim. I am asking where the quote is found. I'm not doubing that we have been warned, I am asking where the quote is. I'm also asking what kind of member refers to Pres. Hinckley as 'the Prophet Hinckley'. I'm not aware of any active member talking that way.

[Kirajo]

Whether I think the claims here are "true" or whatever, it really is eye opening. We never know when it's going to happen so it's always good to have something direct as this to kick our butts in gear!

[Mullenite]

Gordon B. Hinckley, “To the Boys and to the Men,” Ensign, Nov. 1998, 51
About half way down the page.



Now, brethren, I should like to talk to the older men, hoping that there will be some lesson for the younger men as well.

I wish to speak to you about temporal matters.

As a backdrop for what I wish to say, I read to you a few verses from the 41st chapter of Genesis.

Pharaoh, the ruler of Egypt, dreamed dreams which greatly troubled him. The wise men of his court could not give an interpretation. Joseph was then brought before him: “Pharaoh said unto Joseph, In my dream, behold, I stood upon the bank of the river:

“And, behold, there came up out of the river seven kine, fatfleshed and well favoured; and they fed in a meadow:

“And, behold, seven other kine came up after them, poor and very ill favoured and leanfleshed. …

“And the lean and the ill favoured kine did eat up the first seven fat kine: …

“And I saw in my dream … seven ears came up in one stalk, full and good:

“And, behold, seven ears, withered, thin, and blasted with the east wind, sprung up after them:

“And the thin ears devoured the seven good ears: …

“And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, … God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do.

“The seven good kine are seven years; and the seven good ears are seven years: the dream is one. …

“… What God is about to do he sheweth unto Pharaoh.

“Behold, there come seven years of great plenty throughout all the land of Egypt:

“And there shall arise after them seven years of famine;

“… And God will shortly bring it to pass” (Gen. 41:17–20, 22–26, 28–30, 32).



Add up fourteen years, what do you get...................