Are you prepared for continued high inflation?

[repeal17thamendment]

Several years ago, a prominent L.D.S. patriot named Joel Skousen made the astute observation that the government was systematically lying and that inflation was actually into double digits. All one has to do is watch how government alters the CPI (consumer price index) and the PPI (producer price index) and how they make their biased calculations. Joel continued to document this as the REAL inflation rate stayed more than double of what government was claiming. Fast forward to now where for the last few months, every financial news source has been forced to admit that inflation is just raging. The government is still lying about the true inflation rate, but the cat is finally out of the bag. It simply became impossible to hide what all americans were seeing: that nearly everything at the grocery store had already gone up (at least once), that gasoline and natural gas prices had dramatically risen and set new baselines, and that gold just would not stop skyrocketing.

So what's causing the runaway inflation? Two billion per week in "eye rack" is the chief cause, and the worst part is most americans are totally ignorant of the fact that dollars spent on iraq are ALL OFF BUDGET. This means that the real budget deficit is just off the charts. Then you have the fact that the satanic forces who control our fiat "money" system have continued to pump insane amounts of cash into several parts of the economy to attempt to keep it from collapsing and waking americans up to the reality of just how bad these people really are.

What can you do? Well, it's almost too late to purchase gold to take advantage of the main runup. You should have bought gold when it was only $290 per ounce, but now that it's almost NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS an ounce , gold will only protect you against future runaway inflation (which is happening as we speak).

In short, bush and his handlers in combination with the secret combination that controls the banking system have utterly killed the dollar. I'm amazed that there is not massive protests outside the white house and capitol now that the Canadian "looney" is worth MORE than your dollar.

It's also almost too late to sell property if you need to. I remember hearing Joel Skousen 2 and 3 years ago, warning his subscribers that if they need to sell property, that they'd better hurry up and do it. Now foreclosures have been on the news for months.

I suggest getting some usable silver, such as morgans or "peace" silver dollars. If you have cash to invest, find a way to get into gold or your savings will be eaten alive by the INDIRECT TAX known as inflation.

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Color me unimpressed. I'm unimpressed with the survivalist Joel Skousen, and his outdated fallout shelter advocacy. I'm unimpressed with the faulty, hole-ridden attempts to paint impending financial doom. I'm unimpressed with your grasp on what the billions spent on Iraq supposedly mean to our economic system. I'm unimpressed with this conspiracy-theory mentality of how "they" are all out to get "you", but "they" can't hide any more, because you're here to tell us about it. I've been personally hearing this tune for two decades from folks of your stripe. And always, the illuminati, the one world order, the global administrative districting, the secret combinations, the communists never manage to show up, even though you eventually type in ALL CAPS to emphasize your point, and insult Canadian currency.

I do not find your rhetoric persuasive. I do not buy your doomsday scnarios. I will not be buying gold at record high prices. I will continue to contentedly slave away as a tool of The Man (tm), pleased with the ability to invest in my 401K with company match, like I've done for the last 10 years, against the passionate ravings of the tinfoil hat brigade.

Please feel free to reply with insults like "blinder-wearing", "ostritch", or whatever strikes your fancy.

I'm not impressed.

LM

[a-train]

'Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.' - Prov. 16:18
-a-train

[repeal17thamendment]

LM you clearly have the spirit of contention (as evidenced by all the non specific statements masquerading as responses, and the veiled and not so veiled insults directed at me) so you've essentially made it impossible to have a logical and reasoned discussion with you. I do have a question though, are you saying the Book of Mormon is wrong about the existence of a singular secret combination (Ether chapter 8)? It sure appears that is what you are saying.

It's kind of amazing how angry some people get when you point out the actions or the mere EXISTENCE of the secret combination. They focus on the MESSENGER instead of the subject (like when you get upset that I used CAPS ). They act as if you're trying to force them to believe, and that they are somehow super tough for being able to resist. They also tend to use emotion instead of logical reasoning.

Guess what LM, you are free to believe whatever you want to believe. The rude way you approached me and what I said just makes you look bad (there's one in every forum who trolls for sincere people to attack-thus I'm not surprised LM was the first post).

[MorningStar]

Inflation concerns me, but I don't really know if there is a conspiracy involved. A friend of mine thinks prices are going to go up 500% this year. He also thinks that sunscreen causes skin cancer and that it's an FDA conspiracy. I disagree.

[MorningStar]

It is true though that some people will step on anyone to make money for themselves.

[Canuck Mormon]

Originally Posted by repeal17thamendment

LM you clearly have the spirit of contention (as evidenced by all the non specific statements masquerading as responses, and the veiled and not so veiled insults directed at me) so you've essentially made it impossible to have a logical and reasoned discussion with you. I do have a question though, are you saying the Book of Mormon is wrong about the existence of a singular secret combination (Ether chapter 8)? It sure appears that is what you are saying.

It's kind of amazing how angry some people get when you point out the actions or the mere EXISTENCE of the secret combination. They focus on the MESSENGER instead of the subject (like when you get upset that I used CAPS ). They act as if you're trying to force them to believe, and that they are somehow super tough for being able to resist. They also tend to use emotion instead of logical reasoning.

Guess what LM, you are free to believe whatever you want to believe. The rude way you approached me and what I said just makes you look bad (there's one in every forum who trolls for sincere people to attack-thus I'm not surprised LM was the first post).

What are you talking about? LM's post was stating that he disagreed with you assessment and you go and call him a troll because he doesn't believe what you do. Your dollar tanked because of the housing market crashing and other financial issues, not because of Bush and some secret conspiracies. Stop being so defensive about other people disagreeing with you. People are allowed to have opinions that do not match yours. You believe what you believe and I'll believe what I'll believe, OK?

[a-train]

Originally Posted by Canuck Mormon

Your dollar tanked because of the housing market crashing and other financial issues,

And why is there a slip in the housing market? A weak dollar caused the economy to slow so the FED lowered interest rates to record lows and increased the money supply. This caused a fantastic real estate bubble. Were houses becoming more expensive? NO! The dollar was losing value.

As signs of inflation became too great to ignore, the FED brought interest rates back up which popped the real estate bubble. Now there are many Americans who are upside down on their house and/or who can't make the payments. Because American households have so much debt they can't stimulate the economy much because they are broke.

So now what is the FED going to do to stimulate the economy? Lower interest rates again. The White House is also going to offer another tax based stimulus package. Why? Because thats the only place left to free money up. Printing more money will only make the issue more acute.

We would have none of this trouble if our money system wasn't based on fiat currency and debt. We are going into a recession, but the FED will pull us out ASAP with an increased money supply. This will only squeeze the middle class more. It is a terrible cycle, but it will end. It cannot last forever. Sooner or later, they will blow it.

-a-train

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Originally Posted by repeal17thamendment

LM you clearly have the spirit of contention (as evidenced by all the non specific statements masquerading as responses, and the veiled and not so veiled insults directed at me) so you've essentially made it impossible to have a logical and reasoned discussion with you.

Let me clarify my position a little. Nothing in my post was meant as a response or counter arguement, or even an alternative viewpoint. I'm merely stating that I don't find your argument or worldview persuasive, I reject many of your sources, and I reject your suggestions.

I do have a question though, are you saying the Book of Mormon is wrong about the existence of a singular secret combination (Ether chapter 8)?

Not sure what you mean by "singular". Are you claiming the BoM says all of the SC's mentioned are 'the same'? Surely, they've been with us from time to time since Cain. The Jaredites had them, they were active 50-ish years before Christ's birth, and 80 years later right before Christ's arrival in the Americas. Nephi and Moroni both make prophecies that SC's will be around. 2 Nephi 9 discusses SC's as one of the things Satan tries to stir us up into doing.

I don't see anything about how they're all the same SC though. Is that what you're saying, or am I missing your question?

Regardless, I'm not denying the existence (former or current) of sc's. I am rejecting Joel Skousen's claim that I need to sell my property. I'm rejecting your advice that I need to buy silver coins and "the end is near". I do not believe that "bush and his handlers in combination with the secret combination that controls the banking system have utterly killed the dollar." It's obviously not true, because the dollar has not been "utterly killed".

It's kind of amazing how angry some people get when you point out the actions or the mere EXISTENCE of the secret combination.

I'm not angry, and I'm not in denial about the works of darkness. I'm just rejecting your opinion about how they're organized, and what I need to do about it.

In the two decades I've been rejecting your message of impending doom and conspiracies at the highest levels of government, here's the list of insults leveled at me:
Ostrich with head buried in the sand.
In denial.
I chose to wear blinders.
Blind idiot who can't see my own hand in front of my face in broad daylight.
Dupe of [whatever term is being used to describe the current conspirators].

I'll add your insults (and A-Train's) to the list:
I focus on the MESSENGER instead of the subject.
I consider myself "super tough" .
I use emotion instead of logical reasoning.
I'm rude.
I get angry when someone mentions the existence of secret combinations.
My posts make me look bad.
I "troll for sincere people".
I'm prideful, heading for destruction.
I have a haughty spirit, and I'm heading for a fall.

Again, color me unimpressed.

LM

[the_jason]

I'm with the Loudmouth. Why am I going to listen to you about anything? If the prophet tells me to go sell everything and buy silver then I'll listen. Until then, I'll stick to what he HAS told me in regards to food storage, emergency preparedness, etc. If you hate the US so much, do us a favor and leave.