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05-06-2008, 04:45 PM
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priesthood and the veil
According to Lds doctrine why was the veil ripped in two parts when christ died?
I am understanding that the temple and it's practices are still in place in lds so
why was the veil ripped?
also what was the purpose for the temple in the old testament according to lds?
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05-06-2008, 05:03 PM
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hmm interesting question. I will have to look up more on the veil being rent in the temple but I can tell you the purpose of the temple then was the same purpose we have now. The draw mankind closer to God.
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hmm interesting question. I will have to look up more on the veil being rent in the temple but I can tell you the purpose of the temple then was the same purpose we have now. The draw mankind closer to God.
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I wish I had more clear answers on this..i can't even find it on lds.org
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What occurred in the Holy of Holies in the temple of Jerusalem is different than what occurs in our temples today.
In the temple of Jerusalem only the High Priest entered to offer sacrifices to God on behalf of the children of Israel. One could say that the veil, completely rent at Christ's death, symbolized his flesh being the final sacrifice. Through His sacrifice can all men come unto the Father. Christ, having fulfilled the law no longer required sacrifices (unspotted firstborn lamb--similitude of His death) other than a broken heart and a contrite spirit (repentance).
The ordinances in our temples that we undergo such as baptisms for the dead, the sealing of husband and wife for time and all eternity, and so on by the authority (Melchizedek Priesthood) to act in God's name. Temples today are not built and used for the same purpose as the temple in the Old Testament.
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05-08-2008, 12:10 AM
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What occurred in the Holy of Holies in the temple of Jerusalem is different than what occurs in our temples today.
In the temple of Jerusalem only the High Priest entered to offer sacrifices to God on behalf of the children of Israel. One could say that the veil, completely rent at Christ's death, symbolized his flesh being the final sacrifice. Through His sacrifice can all men come unto the Father. Christ, having fulfilled the law no longer required sacrifices (unspotted firstborn lamb--similitude of His death) other than a broken heart and a contrite spirit (repentance).
The ordinances in our temples that we undergo such as baptisms for the dead, the sealing of husband and wife for time and all eternity, and so on by the authority (Melchizedek Priesthood) to act in God's name. Temples today are not built and used for the same purpose as the temple in the Old Testament.
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so then why are their temples today then in lds if what goes on is so different?
it took me awhile to think about this. lol..
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What occurred in the Holy of Holies in the temple of Jerusalem is different than what occurs in our temples today.
In the temple of Jerusalem only the High Priest entered to offer sacrifices to God on behalf of the children of Israel. One could say that the veil, completely rent at Christ's death, symbolized his flesh being the final sacrifice. Through His sacrifice can all men come unto the Father. Christ, having fulfilled the law no longer required sacrifices (unspotted firstborn lamb--similitude of His death) other than a broken heart and a contrite spirit (repentance).
The ordinances in our temples that we undergo such as baptisms for the dead, the sealing of husband and wife for time and all eternity, and so on by the authority (Melchizedek Priesthood) to act in God's name. Temples today are not built and used for the same purpose as the temple in the Old Testament.
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so then why are their temples today then in lds if what goes on is so different?
it took me awhile to think about this. lol..
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What took place in OT times was more symbolic of future events. The sacrifice of the animals was symbolic of the sacrifice of the Saviour. There's a lot of symbolism. There are temples today because there are things which can only be done in temples. The temple is a holy place, a place apart, a place where the Lord can dwell.
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so then why are their temples today then in lds if what goes on is so different?
it took me awhile to think about this. lol..
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I explained it briefly in the third paragraph. The biggest difference is that there are no longer sacrifices performed as were in the O.T. Today's temples in the LDS church are used for performing sacred ordinances for ourselves and for those who have passed on to further our eternal progression (exaltation).
1. Baptisms for the dead (1 Cor.)
2. Personal Endowments
3. Temple Marriage (sealing for time and all eternity)
4. #2 and #3 for the dead
etc.
History of Temples
LDS.org - Liahona Article - Why We Build Temples
LDS.org - Liahona Article - Why These Temples?
LDS.org - Ensign Article - The Law of Sacrifice
LDS.org - Ensign Article - Jesus and the Temple
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but our prophet also speaks with Christ face to face in our temple's holy of holies, a place set aside for this purpose for any revelations or instruction that the Lord sees fit to give.
Before temples are dedicated, there is an open house to allow the public in to view the inside of the temple and what occurs. If you live near where one is being built, feel free to visit and take the open house tour before the temple is dedicated and closed to the general public.
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Like Skale indicated (forgive me Skale if I misrepresent you) when I think of the veil being "rent" from top to bottom, I think of the Savior's body, pierced and bleeding, given as a ransom "for all".
Priesthood power, the Melchezidek Priesthood, holds the "keys to the knowledge of God". Priesthood power prepares us to see within the veil, even as the brother of Jared. The fullness of the Priesthood is when we are able to receive the Second Comforter. For that intent was the Priesthood restored! Moses tried to bring his people into the presence of Christ, but they would not.
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Interesting topic!
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