Primary Dissed?

Eve · #1 (**permalink**) 04-05-2004, 10:13 PM

In our ward, our primary is always the last to get callings filled. The other auxillaries get to take who they want for positions, they can take them from anywhere but we cant get them if they already have callings. We pray about different people and talk to the bishop about it but seem to always be turned down. We have had the bishopric pull people out of the primary and put new ones in without even consulting the pres. I am the first counselor so I am not as frustrated as the president. She gets so frustrated that she gets to the point of asking to be released. We are always trying to scramble for subs because we dont have teachers. My husband has had to fill in a number of times at the last minute. We feel that the bishopric does not find the primary as important as other auxiliaries. We love the children and that is what keeps us going. The "politics" can be difficult.

juliejalago · #2 (**permalink**) 04-11-2004, 01:36 AM

Primary does seem to have a reputation for being last on the list, but I suspect often it is a misconception. I currently serve in my ward's Primary presidency, and no, we don't get everyone we'd like for every calling. We sometimes have teachers who cause us grief. But I've served in YW and RS auxilliaries, and they don't always get who they ask for either. The bishopric cannot force people to serve and should not be blamed for the shortcomings of ward members who fail to keep their promises. Hopefully as auxilliary presidencies, we are all in this together for the same ultimate purpose. There is no unity when jealousy exists between the auxilliaries. It may not be easy -- often who we are given to work with may be a "diamond in the rough" -- but Satan would love to divide and conquer us, using this as an excuse not to support our bishopric or to give in to an erroneous belief that we can do no good in our calling.

#3 (**permalink**) 04-12-2004, 01:05 AM

I thought this was suppose to be so you could post primary lessons and advice? I didnt realize it was going to become a place to complain about what our wards are doing wrong... Excuse me for a minute while I vent......
I'm tired of all the stupid complaints.....stand up in your wards and make a difference for goodness sakes, ask to help out, make suggestions, but waiting for someone else to come up with an idea or waiting for them to fix it is a joke.....Our primay is so jazzed to have people offer to help, get involved and make it happen...Things don't happen until people like you and I make them....
just my thoughts....

Laureltree

ps...any good lesson ideas? I would love to hear some.

Ammon · #4 (**permalink**) 04-12-2004, 07:34 PM

I believe the parameters of the forum re Primary were not clearly defined, but were instead left flexible to allow for all types of relative or productive discussion. And discussions regarding the needs of one's Primary not being met surely seem relevant, if not productive, to me.

#5 (**permalink**) 04-14-2004, 10:52 AM

Actually I dont find it productive brother ammon, because if you wanted to be productive you would go to the bishop or the primary president instead of posting it on the website. I would try the first two, it were me.

Laureltree

juliejalago · #6 (**permalink**) 04-14-2004, 07:49 PM

Wow, LaurelTree, you better guide me to find the rule where it says a post must be productive, because that is not how I would characterize a good portion of the posts here at LDSTalk. Since when is that a requirement? And how do you measure it? I left posting for about a year due to the overwhelming anti-LDS sentiment that flourished here, and only came back recently. I commend the board for getting somewhat stricter on all the anti crap, but you still have to allow a little freedom of expression. I don't necessarily agree with Ammon, but I understand the feeling of frustration. Perhaps something productive could occur from this topic if we used gentle persuasion instead of harsh criticism.

Ammon · #7 (**permalink**) 04-20-2004, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by LaurelTree@Apr 14 2004, 08:52 AM
Actually I dont find it productive brother ammon, because if you wanted to be productive you would go to the bishop or the primary president instead of posting it on the website. I would try the first two, it were me.

Laureltree

Been done, and no results have been forthcoming... the bishop is one of my best friends. It is better to vent here, or yell there? You decide.

Luzia · #8 (**permalink**) 04-23-2004, 10:23 AM

Our primary gets all the teachers and there is nothing left for YW or YM. But, that`s not the case.
Since we were getting less attention by the bishop for YW, we had to go and write a letter why we need the teachers and we had to show the bishop, in one visit to the class that girls are leaving because of the lack of teachers and a secretary, we made him see with his eyes that is a necesary thing. We are still waiting for them, but soon we`ll get them.

But, are you sure your ward has enough people to do the job? Mine doesn`t that is why we have to wait so much.

Ammon · #9 (**permalink**) 04-26-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Luzia@Apr 23 2004, 08:23 AM
Our primary gets all the teachers and there is nothing left for YW or YM. But, that`s not the case.
Since we were getting less attention by the bishop for YW, we had to go and write a letter why we need the teachers and we had to show the bishop, in one visit to the class that girls are leaving because of the lack of teachers and a secretary, we made him see with his eyes that is a necesary thing. We are still waiting for them, but soon we`ll get them.

But, are you sure your ward has enough people to do the job? Mine doesn`t that is why we have to wait so much.

That is certainly part of the problem.

Luzia · #10 (**permalink**) 05-04-2004, 02:18 PM

What we were trying at some point is to activate some old members with callings.
That can be a good idea.
Good luck :P