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Well, look at the bright side...you could have spent hours looking at other, less worthy stuff.
This just struck me.....LOL.....so true. And as an added benefit, I really learned some things I didn't know. It was a very useful experience for me despite my frustration.
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Actually, I saw that, but thanks.

Still people are missing my point. You don't have to convince me about the Young Women's program. And if what I've pointed out is not what you've perceived, that's fine, I understand. But my point is that it very much CAN be perceived that way.

So, why should it not be posted? If somebody would spend 1/10th of the energy we've spent talking about it, it could be done. So why not?

The arguments of, "I already know so it's not important to me," or "anybody that is interested can go elsewhere to look," or "it's not applicable to you so why worry about it," just reflect complacency to me. Why is everybody defending why it's not there, instead of thinking, hmmmm.....maybe it wouldn't hurt anything if it was there? I mean, the primary age groups were important enough to include. I think it may just be an oversight. But then I think I'm missing something. But the aforementioned arguments are not compelling to me.

Ok, now I really, really, am making it more than it's worth. I'll let it go now. Thanks for all the contributions though.
Why not include it? I don't know. Like you said, it's probably an oversight. But I think I did address the question with this post, which you haven't commented on:

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I don't think it gives that impression at all. Looked at in perspective, one has to remember that the Priesthood is part of the Restored Gospel. The Young Men program is a program in the church. The Young Women program is a program in the Church. The Young Women program is not part of the gospel. It's part of the program.
The purpose of LDS.org isn't to list every single thing about the Church -- that's what we have the handbooks for. It's not to demonstrate a hierarchical flow chart of Church organization. It's a resource, and is far from comprehensive. In the Young Women program, the girls are divided into classes, which are less important than quorums, which is what the Young Men program is divided into. But the Young Women program wasn't restored on the banks of the Susquehanna River after an 1800-year hiatus. The Priesthood was. I reiterate that the Young Men program is the structure that runs the Aaronic Priesthood, which is part of the eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Young Women program is just a program.
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I didn't comment on that, because I agreed with it and didn't think it was necessary to comment. Sorry. But then again, you could say the same thing about Primary. Yet the information about the Primary program is readily available.

But, I do see your point. And I agree with it.
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Actually, I saw that, but thanks.

Still people are missing my point. You don't have to convince me about the Young Women's program. And if what I've pointed out is not what you've perceived, that's fine, I understand. But my point is that it very much CAN be perceived that way.

So, why should it not be posted? If somebody would spend 1/10th of the energy we've spent talking about it, it could be done. So why not?

The arguments of, "I already know so it's not important to me," or "anybody that is interested can go elsewhere to look," or "it's not applicable to you so why worry about it," just reflect complacency to me. Why is everybody defending why it's not there, instead of thinking, hmmmm.....maybe it wouldn't hurt anything if it was there? I mean, the primary age groups were important enough to include. I think it may just be an oversight. But then I think I'm missing something. But the aforementioned arguments are not compelling to me.

Ok, now I really, really, am making it more than it's worth. I'll let it go now. Thanks for all the contributions though.
I guess I don't understand. I put both the YW and YM site up side by side. All the information is there. They are formatted differently. But that's probably because the YM's presidency is organizing how their program looks and the YW's Presidency does there's.

I'm sorry you feel there is a problem. There are other places to look that are readily available. Many people have started their own sites about the YW's program to share ideas.
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Please show me the link that breaks down how the Young Women's is organized. I just found very general info about structure. I couldn't find anything about how the classes are organized. But......I certainly haven't ruled out that I've just totally missed it. I am certainly interested in seeing what you're seeing. Perhaps I'm totally out to lunch. I certainly realize that is a viable possibility.
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I think that its not readily available because its not a saving principle or doctrine. No one should join the church based on any of its programs, but because it has the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. That is the emphasis of the church, not the YW's program, or anything else
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I think that its not readily available because its not a saving principle or doctrine.
Neither is the Primary Program, but info is readily available about it, including a breakdown of classes and ages.

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Absolutely agree. I am not at all saying that a program should determine that. It's just "nice to know" information. Again, I recognize that, in the big scheme of things, it's really not that big of a deal at all.
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Ah, thanks! I had not found this. It's buried deep, but finally, something. Thank-you for looking for that. I really appreciate it.
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Ah, thanks! I had not found this. It's buried deep, but finally, something. Thank-you for looking for that. I really appreciate it.
All I did was use the search function, then filter the results by support materials. Once I tried it that way, it took 30 whole seconds.
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