Patterns

[tomk]

I think it might be instructive for us to post patterns or "oft repeated phrases" that we have run across when studying the scriptures. In such phrases lie the "mysteries" of God. We don't necessarily need to post what is personal revelation for us, but certainly we can share those parts which are for public consumption:


I'll start us off:


One day during my studies I found-out that the Lord has repeated the following phrasing in ALL FOUR STANDARD WORKS:


Isa. 64: 4
For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

1 Cor. 2: 9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

3 Ne. 17: 16
And after this manner do they bear record: The eye hath never seen, neither hath the ear heard, before, so great and marvelous things as we saw and heard Jesus speak unto the Father;

D&C 133: 45
For since the beginning of the world have not men heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides thee, how great things thou hast prepared for him that waiteth for thee.


This repetition makes it clear to me that the Lord desires to bless us with as much as we are willing to receive, as fast as we're willing to receive it.

[lilered]

A Still Small Voice - Which indicates when the Holy Spirit speaks to most of us, it is done without fanfare, others knowing it, and is in away, that we must be able to listen for it and to it. Praying and then not giving the prayer a chance to be responded to because we immediatly get on the cell phone, plug in the IPOD in our ear, or jump on the computer etc.. We need to create an enviroment whereby
the Holy Spirit will feel welcome to be invited in to fulfill his responsiblity.

1 Kgs. 19: 12
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

1 Ne. 17: 45
45 Ye are swift to do iniquity but slow to remember the Lord your God. Ye have seen an angel, and he spake unto you; yea, ye have heard his voice from time to time; and he hath spoken unto you in a still small voice, but ye were past feeling, that ye could not feel his words; wherefore, he has spoken unto you like unto the voice of thunder, which did cause the earth to shake as if it were to divide asunder.

D&C 85: 6
6 Yea, thus saith the still small voice, which whispereth through and pierceth all things, and often times it maketh my bones to quake while it maketh manifest, saying:

[rameumptom]

One of the key terms in the Book of Mormon is "remember." We are encouraged to remember the captivity of our fathers, and the blessings of God in freeing them. We are asked by Moroni to study the scriptures and ponder the words, remembering what God did for Adam and others since. Alma 5 asks us if we remember how we felt when the Spirit first touched us, and if we can so feel that now.
Christ taught that the Holy Ghost will bring all things to our remembrance. And the Sacramental prayers have us promise to "always remember Him."

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by tomk

I think it might be instructive for us to post patterns or "oft repeated phrases" that we have run across when studying the scriptures. In such phrases lie the "mysteries" of God. We don't necessarily need to post what is personal revelation for us, but certainly we can share those parts which are for public consumption:

I'll start us off:

One day during my studies I found-out that the Lord has repeated the following phrasing in ALL FOUR STANDARD WORKS:

Isa. 64: 4
For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

1 Cor. 2: 9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

3 Ne. 17: 16
And after this manner do they bear record: The eye hath never seen, neither hath the ear heard, before, so great and marvelous things as we saw and heard Jesus speak unto the Father;

D&C 133: 45
For since the beginning of the world have not men heard nor perceived by the ear, neither hath any eye seen, O God, besides thee, how great things thou hast prepared for him that waiteth for thee.

This repetition makes it clear to me that the Lord desires to bless us with as much as we are willing to receive, as fast as we're willing to receive it.

If you notice when ever the veil is rented with any person in mortality, mere mortal language cannot even described those moments of what is being received. First reaction is to marvel over the scenery, the voice[s], or beings themselves. I noticed even Joseph Smith on occasion could not write what was being presented in mortal language.

Yes, I concur with your assumption. If we are ready. If we are receipted. If we can comprehend what is being revealed. HE would never allow us to see or hear anything that is beyond our level of reception and understanding.

[Elgama]

One that always interested me was the Bible pattern of the younger inheriting even in the Book of Mormon its Nephi.

But
Cain - Abel/Seth
Ishmael - Isaac
Esau - Jacob
Reuben - Joseph
Manasseh - Ephraim

The latter one is the most intriguing because they appear to be little boys and Manasseh had not done anything to lose his.

-Charley

[tomk]

Originally Posted by Elgama

One that always interested me was the Bible pattern of the younger inheriting even in the Book of Mormon its Nephi.

But
Cain - Abel/Seth
Ishmael - Isaac
Esau - Jacob
Reuben - Joseph
Manasseh - Ephraim

The latter one is the most intriguing because they appear to be little boys and Manasseh had not done anything to lose his.

-Charley

And what have we inherited from Heavenly Father?

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by Elgama

One that always interested me was the Bible pattern of the younger inheriting even in the Book of Mormon its Nephi.

But
Cain - Abel/Seth
Ishmael - Isaac
Esau - Jacob
Reuben - Joseph
Manasseh - Ephraim

The latter one is the most intriguing because they appear to be little boys and Manasseh had not done anything to lose his.

-Charley

Even the partial story difference of two noted authors observation between who answered first when the FATHER's plan was laid out: Moses versus Abraham. Who is correct? If, there is any pattern key given here in this biblical pattern of the younger or middle child inheriting the birthright, maybe this cause that rift between the Son of Morning and the FATHER. Being first and not be chosen, would place a wedge between the child and the parent; as seen in past biblical prophets children.

[tomk]

Regarding this oft repeated phrasing: ASK, SEEK, KNOCK.



Does this phrase mean more than meets the eye?



Matt. 7: 7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Ask = Given
Seek = Find
Knock = Open


Luke 11: 9
9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Ask = Given
Seek = Find
Knock = Open

3 Ne. 14: 7
7 Ask, and it shall be given unto you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Ask = Given
Seek = Find
Knock = Open

D&C 88: 63
63 Draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you; seek me diligently and ye shall find me; ask, and ye shall receive; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Draw Near Unto Christ = Christ Draws Near Unto Me
Seek Diligently = Find Christ
Ask = Receive
Knock = Open



Some links to other scriptures or phrases that can shed some light would be great.

[Hemidakota]

D&C 88:83 = Matt 25:40

[tomk]

83 He that seeketh me early shall find me, and shall not be forsaken.


40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.