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07-06-2008, 06:10 PM
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"Lamanitish"
Is this a term to used to describe non-Lamanite/non-Nephite people? Could it be referring to a people that were there before Lehi & family?
Anyone know anything on this?
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Alma 19
16 And it came to pass that they did call on the name of the Lord, in their might, even until they had all fallen to the earth, save it were one of the Lamanitish women, whose name was Abish, she having been converted unto the Lord for many years, on account of a remarkable vision of her father—
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07-06-2008, 06:19 PM
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I think it was just used as an adjective. Abish was a Lamanite servant to the Lamanite King Lamoni.
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07-06-2008, 06:32 PM
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I always thought that, but the last time I read through this, I wondered: Why not just use "Lamanite women", or "Nephite women".
It just seems that there is a different origin to this woman or group of women than either Lamanite or Nephite.
Maybe this woman was raised as a Lamanite but was from elsewhere.
Maybe, I trying to read something into it that's not there?
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07-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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I think the BofM makes it clear that there are lots of groups of people with different names but for the sake of simplicity, they would generalize the people into these two familiar groups; nephites and lamanites.
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07-06-2008, 06:41 PM
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I know there is one passage that describes the different "ites" but for simplicity's sake were simply referred to as Lamanites because at the time they all opposed the Nephites, who at the time were the "good guys."
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I thought the folk who were here before Nephi were called jaredites?
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07-06-2008, 07:33 PM
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there were Jaredites and Mulekites.
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07-06-2008, 07:35 PM
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I know the reference, but there is only one use of the word "Lamanitish". I just thought that perhaps this woman could be from a people that were here before the Lehi party, and were not mentioned specifically.
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I know, but I'm not sure that's what it means although it's entirely possible. In other words, those that split off from Nephi became known as Zoramites, Ishmaelites, Lamanites and were not part of the same "family" as the Mulekites or the Jaredites. There's no real way to determine the lineage though, so anyone's guess is good.
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Lamanitish appears on the Book of Mormon twice.
Alma 17:26
Alma 19:16
Used as an adjective, but ALSO only used in two chapters which are included in:
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An account of the sons of Mosiah, who rejected their rights to the kingdom for the word of God, and went up to the land of Nephi to preach to the Lamanites; their sufferings and deliverance—according to the record of Alma. Comprising chapters 17 to 26 inclusive.
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Because it's a record of a different people, this could also explain the strange word.
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