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08-11-2008, 09:12 AM
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Mosiah 17:13 typo?
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08-11-2008, 09:13 AM
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It isn't a typo. From what I understand, Faggots are bundles of sticks used to build fires....the kind of fires that took the life of our beloved Abinadi.
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08-11-2008, 09:18 AM
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True, faggots are like the branches used to start a fire, they are not logs but thinner branches. Like you would beat someone with as torture, not hit them with to kill.
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08-11-2008, 09:19 AM
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Beat me to it, Misshalfway...faggots are kindling, bits of dry wood used for starting fires.
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08-11-2008, 10:24 AM
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I just learned something. Thanks everyone.
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08-11-2008, 10:25 AM
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Thank you all. I didn't know that. I suppose I could have looked it up somewhere....
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08-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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In fact, our modern minds tend to think that Abinadi was bound to a stake and set on fire. From the actual terminology in this verse, it seems that they used several faggots, or burning sticks, and poked them at him, burning him slowly with pain.
Personally, I think I'd prefer the raging fire than a slow and painful death as that....
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08-11-2008, 05:29 PM
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In either case, as others have pointed out, "faggots" just means bundles of sticks. How it took on its modern, rather vulgar meaning of "homosexuals", I don't know...though that does give a rather bizarre mental image of Abinadi's martyrdom... Last edited by Vort; 08-11-2008 at 05:32 PM.
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08-11-2008, 08:18 PM
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08-11-2008, 11:53 PM
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1. A means of inflicting severe suffering, vengeance, or punishment. 2. A whip used to inflict punishment. 3. To flog. In places like Malasya, Singapore and Indonesia they still use rattan sticks (or faggots in 18th century language) for corporal punishment. In India today the police carries rattan stick as a defensive and offensive weapon.
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