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Old 05-04-2009, 01:57 AM
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There's another thread about the Word of Wisdom that you might find helpful- here. It might help you learn more about the commandment to abstain from alcohol so you can connect it to the Bible- and explain it to your uncle- more effectively.

Ultimately, the premise of the Word of Wisdom (section 89 in the Doctrine and Covenants) lies in the fact that we believe God continues to give His children specific revelation for their time and circumstances. Perhaps explaining that to your uncle might help him understand.
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Nothing in the bible says anything about we have to drink and nothing (and that includes the Revelations book of the bible that says thou shalt not take anything away from the book of prophecy which is commonly used by protestants to disprove us when it only applies to the book of revelations Not the bible in whole since the bible is not one book but many) sorry about the long dialog but since nothing says that you have to or should then there is no reason why additional scripture revealed to us in this modern day times would not ban alcohol your uncle is thinking in terms of just the bible he should be thinking of both and comparing them without narrow-minded prejudice(no offense) taking a walk in lds shoes i guess
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The scripture you're referring to in Revelations is quoted thus in the King James version:

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(Rev: 22:-19)

For those of you who are wondering about this scripture (I'm sure there are many on this board) three words in that scripture stick out to me. The word "man", the word "book" and the word "prophecy". Starting with the word prophecy it becomes apparent that John is talking about the book of Revelations, which when it was written was not a part of the bible. These books were not put together into the Bible that we know until later. Note his use of the singular term "prophecy". The bible is not just one prophecy, it is composed of countless prophecies and countless books. You can see from that phrasing that John is referring to one book, the book of Revelations.

read these phrases again:

that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things,
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy

now read the whole scripture again.

Here is my next point, in my opinion a very important point. I hope you agree.

The word "man" is used. As in "if any MAN shall add to," or take away, etc. This leads back to the same old question that clarifies everything when the truth is revealed to you, and that is: is the Book of Mormon a work of God, or is it a work of man? God is not limiting himself by that statement. He doesn't want man adding to or taking away. He has said nothing about himself. It is foolishness to put God on the same level as man in order to put a limit on what God can or cannot reveal.

It is in the midst of a multiplicity of churches that say one thing or the other, contradict, fight, argue with each other, each one believing the other is wrong, with many men and women getting lost in the confusion, that a great beacon of hope has arrived. God again reveals himself to prophets and delivers his truth, continuing the revelations which had been stopped because of the disbelief of men and their unwillingness to follow him, in preparation for the second coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

And those who try to limit what God can or cannot reveal are crying "but wait! you can't add to or take away!"

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