Joseph Smith and Kolob explained.

[PastorBob]

Kolob - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"saw the stars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God;....and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest." -Pearl of Great Price

Kolob is modernized Hebrew for Mercury, alt. spelling is Kokob in older texts.

[puf_the_majic_dragon]

Dig out your PoGP and read Abraham 3.
Once you've done that, Kolob == Christ.
Now go back and read it again.

[PastorBob]

I am not theorizing on this, you must keep in mind that Joseph Smith (and all the other prophets) were a Freemason, and that he was teaching the goal of making it to the Celestial Kingdom.

“As we conquer the conditions of a planet, we incarnate on the next planet inward until we return to the Father of All, when our experiences link together, become intelligible, and star speaks to star. Terra is the last planet where bodies are made of earth; in Venus they are fluid; on Mercury aerial; while in the Sun they are fashioned of pure fire.”

“And this is the true and final secret of Freemasonry; this Sun, is it not the Great Architect of the Universe, the Father of the System, the Eidolon of the Macrocosm? And this Phallus, is it not the Great Architect of this other Universe of Man, the Father of the Race, the Eidolon of the Microcosm?”

Read the Journal of Discourses 13:271

“So it is with the inhabitants of the sun… Do you think there is any life there? No question of it.”

And in 272 Brigham Young speaks of the annihilation of the ego in the abyss:

“But the most simple thing in the world is to understand is the work of the Lord. What shall we do? Divest ourselves of great , big “Mr. I.””

Volume 13 | Journal of Discourses

[mrmarklin]

Thanks for quoting out of context, pastor bob.

I'm not sure what your point is, but no one knows the location of Kolob, it has not been revealed AFAIK.

BY was offering his opinions as to inhabitants of various locations illustrating the God created them all, and in general trying to show how the world lives in ignorance of many things that are of heaven, demanding proof. He is attempting to tell church members to rid themselves of similar ignorance.

It has been postulated by various general authorities that the sun is Kolob, but that is certainly not church doctrine.

[livy111us]

The book of Abraham came out before Joseph Smith was a mason, and only very few modern prophets were freemasons.

Kolob in the Semitic language means- center, middle, or heart. This makes sense,
because if was a governing star it would be in the middle. Also if you look at the galaxy, there is
a center in which every sun, and planet revolves around. In the same chapter of Abraham, in the
thirteenth verse, it gives more names. "Shinehah, which is sun...Kokob, which is star...Olea,
which is the moon...Kokaubeam, which signifies stars..." For years, people have criticized these
words saying they are created by Joseph Smiths imagination. But now that we have a greater
knowledge of languages, they make perfect sense. Kokob is Hebrew for star. Kokaubeam is
Hebrew for stars. Olea in Hebrew is moon. And Shinehah is Egyptian, Sheni=encircle,
Nehah=sun. This proves the inspiration in the translation of the book of Abraham. Egyptian was
a coded language for many decades after the translation of this book, yet Joseph Smith was able
to give the correct translation of Egyptian and Hebrew words.[paraphrased from Matthew Browns All
Things Restored]


Kolob - FAIRMormon

[beefche]

Originally Posted by PastorBob

I am not theorizing on this, you must keep in mind that Joseph Smith (and all the other prophets) were a Freemason, and that he was teaching the goal of making it to the Celestial Kingdom.

So, your point? If we believe that the Celestial Kingdom is "heaven" as other churches call it, then shouldn't we be preaching and teaching to "make it" to the CK?

What is your point to this discussion, Pastor Bob?

[Maxgreen1]

I speak Arabic.
Kokob (In some forms, Kokobim) is the Arabic word for planet (plural). This is easily confirmed on any online translator.

Kolob is believed by some to be the center of the Universe. Kolob has the Arabic root letters KLB, and roughly pronounced Kolob (With a Kaf, a hard K).
In Arabic, the KLB is the heart and the source of life in the body.

Perhaps Kolob is the heart, and the source of life in the Universe.

The Arabic perspective
-Max

[mrmarklin]

Originally Posted by beefche

So, your point? If we believe that the Celestial Kingdom is "heaven" as other churches call it, then shouldn't we be preaching and teaching to "make it" to the CK?

What is your point to this discussion, Pastor Bob?

I think pastorbob is doing a little Trolling.

[rayhale]

This is the more complete text where PastorBob quoted from (The bold is mine):
Journal of Discourses 13 page 271 (last paragraph)

We are called ignorant; so we are: but what of it? Are not all ignorant? I rather think so. Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon? When we view its face we may see what is termed "the man in the moon," and what some philosophers declare are the shadows of mountains. But these sayings are very vague, and amount to nothing; and when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain. It was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets; and so will this earth when it is celestialized. Every planet in its first rude, organic state receives not the glory of God upon it, but is opaque; but when celestialized, every planet that God brings into existence is a body of light, but not till then. Christ is the light of this planet.

What was science like back then? How about medical technology? Transportation? Astrometry? Well in 1870, when Brigham Young wrote this, all these fields were, in modern terms, prehistoric, at best. No one, including the Prophet, knew much about astrometry. In the more complete quote that I provided, you can see that Brigham Young speculated that the moon, and the sun were inhabited. It seems obvious that he, and other early Church leaders couldn’t conceive of billions or trillions of years. Who can say whether or not the moon, or the sun didn’t have inhabitants billions years in the past? Or, who can say they won’t in billions or trillions of years in the future?

[JimmieD1]

Originally Posted by PastorBob

Kolob - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"saw the stars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God;....and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest." -Pearl of Great Price

Kolob is modernized Hebrew for Mercury, alt. spelling is Kokob in older texts.

I seriously doubt Joseph was talking about the planet Mercury. You also assume that Joseph would be familiar with modern Hebrew (which isn't the same as archaic or standard Hebrew) as well as assuming that the Book of Abraham was written in modern Hebrew. Neither of those is the case.

Originally Posted by livy111us

Kolob in the Semitic language means- center, middle, or heart.

Kokob is Hebrew for star.

I think KVKV (Kokav) is the Hebrew for star.

Kokaubeam is Hebrew for stars.

KVKVYM (Kokavim)

Olea in Hebrew is moon.

YRH (Yahrayah)

Nehah=sun.

In Hebrew?

This proves the inspiration in the translation of the book of Abraham. Egyptian was a coded language for many decades after the translation of this book, yet Joseph Smith was able to give the correct translation of Egyptian and Hebrew words.

Did Joseph translate the BoA from Hebrew or Egyptian?

"The Book of Abraham. A translation from some Egyptian papyri that came into the hands of Joseph Smith in 1835, containing writings of the patriarch Abraham. The translation was published serially in the Times and Seasons beginning March 1, 1842, at Nauvoo, Illinois. See History of the Church, vol. 4, pp. 519-534." (scriptures.lds.org)

It seems you may be conflating the two.