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This is Timothy B. Wilson, whom Ajax has slammed most earnestly. I don't want to waste much time on this phantom person, whoever he or she is. I will only say that everything stated by Ajax is a lie. I do not understand the motive of the attack. If anyone wants to email me about anything stated by Ajax, or even call me directly, I'd be happy to provide dozens of references that validate me as the true author of my book (friends, relatives, editors and publishers who worked with me on my project from 1991 to the present day).
--- tim (801) 860-0199, wilson57@gmail.com. Ajax is an ironic name for someone so dirty.
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About the BofM site, I don't know. I think it would be very good for kids. I think it lacks some important and insightful subtleties. For instance;

Hi, this is Tim the author.

I appreciate your analytical nature. I'm sure it is useful in many areas of study. My intent was to deal with the intent of the ancient messengers of truth, to make them understood more easily. After working on the project full time for two years one thing was absolutely burned into my mind....the fact that truth is fiercely independent of words. This is why the Book of Mormon has been so successfully translated from English into 140 languages and counting. In many languages, such as Swahili, for example, the only qualified translator was not even LDS. Yet the spirit of the book comes through because the message is true, not because the translation was perfect.

Likewise, my intention was to bring to light what is difficult for so many people today. Most adults struggle with Isaiah, with Jacob chapter 5, and with compound sentences that seem to divert themselves midstream. Those poor guys back then had no word processing. They admitted that engraving the plates was hard. It was not even done in their speaking language. They say, "please don't condemn this book because of our mistakes."

The Book of Mormon is indeed the most correct book on earth......doctrinally, not grammatically. 4,000 grammatical changes were made from the first edition to the next edition in 1837. Yes, truth is indeed independent of words. The messages and testimonies of Christ are timeless and transcend all cultures and languages.

My work has helped thousands of people, old and young alike. I am happy to serve the Lord with my endeavor. It's simply a result of being anxiously engaged in a good cause, not being commanded in all things.

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If I read this paraphrase, could I claim that I had read the BOM?


... uh...never mind--the author says NO: This site is not intended as replacement reading of The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ


Hundreds of thousands of LDS and investigators have just had their hopes of an easier path dashed to pieces.
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Well, I will say that if you read my work you would most likely understand the Book of Mormon better than 90% of any LDS person out there. Truth is independant of words. And I adore this man's book review. It's at the bottom of my home page.....

Every Mormon Home Should Have, October 11, 2005
Reviewer: M. McDermott (Morgan, UT)
"As a former seminary teacher and now gospel doctorine teacher, this "guide" makes reading the Book of Mormon much easier and understandable. It's like have a scriptorian next to you explaining what you just read, and yet, it is written with flow, like a novel, so you don't want to put it down. I finished the whole Book of Mormon in one week. I have a more vivid understanding and mental references now. I completed the prophets challenge. I can't wait to read this 2-3 times a year. It is not like other scriptures "re-written" losing translation, this is "right on", and has the same spirit of revelation attending you as it is when you are reading from the Book of Mormon."

So now all you hundreds of thousands of LDS and investigators may have renewed hope in understanding the message of the Book of Mormon, even if you have not read the Book of Mormon.

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Thanks for weighing in Tim. I'm not sure about the motives of Ajax, he or she has made some oddball claims about several people here, including that I'm "brainwashed" because I've been to Iraq and disagreed with him/her, and that George Bush is (seriously) the anti-Christ. Ajax seems quite irrational on some subjects, and you seem to have attracted his or her unfavorable attention for some reason.

Your plain BOM is awesome; keep up the good work!
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Thought some might be interested in seeing this site, where a guy has redone the BOM in plain English to make it easier to read. http://plainbookofmormon.com

Outshinned,

Thanks for the additional web links! They are an awesome addition to my favorities!
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This is Timothy B. Wilson, whom Ajax has slammed most earnestly. I don't want to waste much time on this phantom person, whoever he or she is. I will only say that everything stated by Ajax is a lie. I do not understand the motive of the attack. If anyone wants to email me about anything stated by Ajax, or even call me directly, I'd be happy to provide dozens of references that validate me as the true author of my book (friends, relatives, editors and publishers who worked with me on my project from 1991 to the present day).
--- tim (801) 860-0199, wilson57@gmail.com. Ajax is an ironic name for someone so dirty.
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Don't waste your time on someone like that Tim ! Did you notice that there was NO INFO on the person abusing you and your name? That has personally told me alot right there. Just remember that even though we don't know who this person is, Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ do know and it has already been noted. Someday, all will be revealed. I for one feel pity for this person.How lonley and bitter a person must be could come on a site just to annonimusly attack someone without any facts to back it up. The person claimed to "know" you, Heavenly Father and their Savior KNOW this person and they will be judged with the judgments they pass out to others. I don't care what happened in your past, I wish you peace in your future.
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To have launched into such a personal attack on the man, I trust you know him personally, or have references to back up your allegations...

We really aren't into baseless attacks on character here; it's too easy to trash someone when they cannot defend themselves.
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He lived in my ward. We know his wife. We met him in a store with another woman and told us about selling 'his' book on his web page.

I don't know what kind of proof you would accept, but I don't waste my time telling the truth about just anyone.

I only send out warnings about the worst kinds of people.
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Thank you for you so called "warning" but after reading your disgraceful abuse on Tim, I think I have already seen who the "worst kind of person" is. Thank you for these great links! I can't wait to share them with my husband and children.
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About the BofM site, I don't know. I think it would be very good for kids. I think it lacks some important and insightful subtleties. For instance;

Hi, this is Tim the author.

I appreciate your analytical nature. I'm sure it is useful in many areas of study. My intent was to deal with the intent of the ancient messengers of truth, to make them understood more easily. After working on the project full time for two years one thing was absolutely burned into my mind....the fact that truth is fiercely independent of words. This is why the Book of Mormon has been so successfully translated from English into 140 languages and counting. In many languages, such as Swahili, for example, the only qualified translator was not even LDS. Yet the spirit of the book comes through because the message is true, not because the translation was perfect.

Likewise, my intention was to bring to light what is difficult for so many people today. Most adults struggle with Isaiah, with Jacob chapter 5, and with compound sentences that seem to divert themselves midstream. Those poor guys back then had no word processing. They admitted that engraving the plates was hard. It was not even done in their speaking language. They say, "please don't condemn this book because of our mistakes."

The Book of Mormon is indeed the most correct book on earth......doctrinally, not grammatically. 4,000 grammatical changes were made from the first edition to the next edition in 1837. Yes, truth is indeed independent of words. The messages and testimonies of Christ are timeless and transcend all cultures and languages.

My work has helped thousands of people, old and young alike. I am happy to serve the Lord with my endeavor. It's simply a result of being anxiously engaged in a good cause, not being commanded in all things.

Tim
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I would be very curious to know if THe Church has given you any feedback on the book, or if they helped you produce it in any way? This is not intended as a critical question...I was just curious, and I do plan on reading it...

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I would be very curious to know if THe Church has given you any feedback on the book, or if they helped you produce it in any way? This is not intended as a critical question...I was just curious, and I do plan on reading it...

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I know this isn't addressed to me. But, the Church has advised against "modern translations" of the Book of Mormon (this includes "plain English," "shortened," etc. versions).

Pertinent portions of this statement can be found in the introduction of Hardy's "Reader's Edition" Book of Mormon -- I don't have it here with me, or I'd give you the page, etc.
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Hi Tim,

I would be very curious to know if THe Church has given you any feedback on the book, or if they helped you produce it in any way? This is not intended as a critical question...I was just curious, and I do plan on reading it...

Thanks!
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I know this isn't addressed to me. But, the Church has advised against "modern translations" of the Book of Mormon (this includes "plain English," "shortened," etc. versions).

Pertinent portions of this statement can be found in the introduction of Hardy's "Reader's Edition" Book of Mormon -- I don't have it here with me, or I'd give you the page, etc.
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I am ambivalent about a 'simpler' BOM. The BOM is meant to be read with the spirit, and I'd be leery of anything other than what is officially sanctioned by the church.

I can imagine someone in the 2nd or 3rd century making a 'simpler' Book of Revelations or Isaiah, because it is too hard to understand for little kids, etc. The fact is that the scriptures aren't meant for 'light reading'. They are meant to be read, pondered, and prayed about, and the spirit will testify of their truth and meaning to you at that time.

Even for little children...
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