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Old 12-09-2008, 09:03 AM
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Seriously,Frankly, I think guys need to be sat down and explained to: "Forget the 'me' generation. I know you're being told by the world everything you do is right and everything is a personal choice. That's selfish and untrue. Get a job. Pay for your date. Stand up for what you believe in. Don't like it? Life sucks - Wear a helmet. That's the way it works."
Are you volunteering? My sons have quit listening to me or my husband.

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Are you volunteering? My sons have quit listening to me or my husband.

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A few months ago Elder Oaks and his companion from the Q of the 70's came to reorganize our Stake. It was a great conference. He spoke on that very issue on account of his second marriage after his first wife passed away.

We sometimes take it lightly when it comes to marriage. We do or don't do the things that are a must in order to find a companion in due time. Life is shaped by actions and inaction. They are both choices and at times we do not understand thus we do not "see" what we did, do or failed to do that is preventing us from finding a companion. God does not do random. Your future companion, whom you knew and lucked eyes with on the other side of the veil before coming to the earth; will be in a certain place at a certain time. If one's life choices have taken us someplace else then the opportunity is lost. Whatever option and choice we exercise after that will forever be second best, sub-optimal and not the one appointed to us by our Father in Heaven.

When our choices lead to pain and heartache we seldom acknowledge that we contributed to such in some measure. It is not blame but a fact that although painful must be realized in order to begin to understand our shortcomings.
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Hahah. I totally volunteer.
YAY!!! We have help!!!



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Other daughter served a mission in South Africa. Holds current temple recommend, very outgoing, physically fit and beautiful. She is 29 and all the guys she knows around her age are not interested in a serious relationship.

The rest of the guys have issues with immorality, pornography, still students at 28, too occupied playing video games, etc.

One guy invited my daughter out to dinner, she went to a medium priced place, he told her to pick the place. When they got there he ordered water, she ordered a soda, he asked her what she liked on the menu, when she told him he said, oh good we can share it. She told him, "you know I work I can pay for my own meal." He still shared it with her and she paid half. Here she is a single mom, he asks her out on a date and she has to pay half. Loser.

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You know, when things like this happen, you are so caught off guard, so blown away by the audacity of this guy that you really can't react in the appropriate way. If she knew in advance that he was going to do that she probably would have planned to walk out with him sitting there to at least pay for her soda! LOL ! She probably gets upset with herself each time she thinks of it!

And another comment you made is that there are more righteous women than men. This is definatley a FACT! Elder Oaks wife was single till she was in her 50's I think! His first wife had to die for her to get married! (no disrespect intended)
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whenever i hear that phrase, it automatically translates to "settle"...'so what if they are not who you would like to spend the rest of your life with, you should settle for what you can get!'
not!!! I would rather spend all the days of my life single, than to "settle"...

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Back to the OP, Beef, have you considered it's not about the "lack of guys", but more about where you live? Have you ever considered moving somewhere else where there are "more guys"?

There are active single guys in the church all around. In fact where I live, there's always more single GUYS at activities than single women. Most single women around here don't appreciate the LDS guys at all. And these are good guys with testimonies, "jobs", etc, etc. But the problem around here is that most women will not date a guy useless he makes over 100K, drives a BMW or Mercedes, owns at least a $500K condo or house. Period. So with that, I know so many good LDS guys who would love to get married to LDS women, end up marrying non-members who appreciate them more.

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Back to the OP, Beef, have you considered it's not about the "lack of guys", but more about where you live? Have you ever considered moving somewhere else where there are "more guys"?

There are active single guys in the church all around. In fact where I live, there's always more single GUYS at activities than single women. Most single women around here don't appreciate the LDS guys at all. And these are good guys with testimonies, "jobs", etc, etc. But the problem around here is that most women will not date a guy useless he makes over 100K, drives a BMW or Mercedes, owns at least a $500K condo or house. Period. So with that, I know so many good LDS guys who would love to get married to LDS women, end up marrying non-members who appreciate them more.
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Back to the OP, Beef, have you considered it's not about the "lack of guys", but more about where you live? Have you ever considered moving somewhere else where there are "more guys"?

There are active single guys in the church all around. In fact where I live, there's always more single GUYS at activities than single women. Most single women around here don't appreciate the LDS guys at all. And these are good guys with testimonies, "jobs", etc, etc. But the problem around here is that most women will not date a guy useless he makes over 100K, drives a BMW or Mercedes, owns at least a $500K condo or house. Period. So with that, I know so many good LDS guys who would love to get married to LDS women, end up marrying non-members who appreciate them more.
Hey, don't I know you from somewhere else??

I have considered moving, but I've never felt the Spirit telling me to move (as of yet). My bf is "strongly encouraging" me to move near her (which would place me in a more LDS rich area). I have some responsibilities here that consume me when thinking about moving. It's a little scary (for me) to think of those responsibilities and not be here to help.

But, Matt, why don't those LDS guys move? I can tell you that LDS women in other parts of the country certainly don't keep standards like that (some do, but majority don't).

And, let's be honest, are you sure the guys don't have high, nearly impossible standards for the women? I find it hard to believe that it's all the women's fault for being judgmental and none of the guys expect perfection from the women.
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