Palin at the Turkey Farm

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by TeancumsSword

My question is what are they so afraid of from Sarah that this is news? Why the continued attacks on a former VP candidate?

How is this an attack on her?

I'm not afraid of Sarah Palin.

Wait, I take that back.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

Elphaba

[TeancumsSword]

Originally Posted by Elphaba

Does anyone here know what he was doing to the turkeys? I couldn't tell, and it seemed like he did something different with each one.

Elphaba

You put the turkey head down in the funnel so just his head it sticking out through the hole. You can figure out the rest.

[TeancumsSword]

Originally Posted by Elphaba

How is this an attack on her?

I'm not afraid of Sarah Palin.

Wait, I take that back.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

Elphaba

Obviously someone is afraid of something. Continuing to attack the former VP candidate of the LOSING ticket 2 1/2 weeks AFTER the election? It's like the media is angry at her for some reason.

[Jenamarie]

How in the world is this attacking her?? I would be shocked if this didn't make the news if it happened after Obama, or Schwartzeneger or anyone else pardoned a turkey and then gave an interview with turkeys being butchered in the background. It's irony at it's finest!

I think it's the camera people and the butcher guy are the ones that come out looking like dolts in all this, ESPECIALLY the butcher guy, because he was looking at the camera the whole time! (it could be that the camera man was too focused on Palin to notice the background action) He had to know that what he was doing wasn't fit for the news!

[john doe]

It's NOT news! Turkeys die, I eat them. What's the big deal? Okay, so they bleed when they lose their heads. So does every other animal I eat. Get over it already. Like I said before, do these people not know where dinner comes from? I grew up with turkeys on a farm, but not on a turkey farm. If that's how the pros slaughter them before making them into Thanksgiving dinner, then it seems pretty humane to me. It's not like they wait for these turkeys to die in their sleep.

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by john doe

It's NOT news! Turkeys die, I eat them. What's the big deal? Okay, so they bleed when they lose their heads. So does every other animal I eat. Get over it already. Like I said before, do these people not know where dinner comes from? I grew up with turkeys on a farm, but not on a turkey farm. If that's how the pros slaughter them before making them into Thanksgiving dinner, then it seems pretty humane to me. It's not like they wait for these turkeys to die in their sleep.

I do not know exactly who you're talking to, but I think it's me.

When I told you where the blood was it was only because you had missed it, not because it was upsetting.

Also, I didn't know what he was doing, and that's why I asked.

I don't think anyone is saying no one should do this to the turkeys. (I can't believe I even wrote that sentence. )

If, indeed, you're talking to me, I am not upset with what I saw.

If you're not, then chalk one up to my paranoia.

Elphaba

[gabelpa]

It is funny, especially to this American living in Britan. Our news reporting is different,we can see the media bias that calls itself "Fox news". It's good to see that if she runs in 2012, she will be doing so as governor of Alaska,and not the better position of Senator.

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by TeancumsSword

Obviously someone is afraid of something. Continuing to attack the former VP candidate of the LOSING ticket 2 1/2 weeks AFTER the election? It's like the media is angry at her for some reason.

You need to get a sense of humor mate.

The media is not attacking her; it's reporting the news, and she is still news.

The media did not force her to put herself in the spotlight by joining the McCain campaign. She chose to do that, and the minute she got up on the stage at the RNC, and gave that kicking speech, which is going to go into the history books, it was her responsibility to make sure she could handle the media, not the other way around.

And if she was ignorant of this, then she was not qualified to be the president.

In fact, the media were incredibly light on her, given she refused to give even one press conference.

If anyone is attacking her it's the people who worked with her on the McCain campaign. By the end they hated her, but couldn't say anything until the campaign was over. And once it was, they spilled it. That is not the media's fault.

If people are attacking her, she’s a tough cookie, and she’ll live. If not, she never should have run for vice president in the first place.

Elphaba

[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by gabelpa

It is funny, especially to this American living in Britan. Our news reporting is different,we can see the media bias that calls itself "Fox news". It's good to see that if she runs in 2012, she will be doing so as governor of Alaska,and not the better position of Senator.

I've heard governors have a better chance of winning an election than do senators. The following are the twenty governors who have been presidents.

Thomas Jefferson, Governor of Virginia, 1779-81
James Monroe, Governor of Virginia, 1799-1802
Andrew Jackson, Governor of the Florida Territory, 1821
Martin Van Buren, Governor of New York, 1829
William Henry Harrison, Territorial Governor of Indiana, 1801-13
John Tyler, Governor of Virginia, 1825-26
James Knox Polk, Governor of Tennessee, 1839-41
Andrew Johnson, Governor of Tennessee, 1853-57, Military Governor of Tennessee, 1862-65
Rutherford Birchard Hayes, Governor of Ohio, 1868-72, Governor of Ohio, 1876-77
Grover Cleveland, Governor of New York, 1883-85
William McKinley, Governor of Ohio, 1892-96
Theodore Roosevelt, Governor of New York, 1898-1900
William Howard Taft, Governor of the Philippines, 1901-04
Woodrow Wilson, Governor of New Jersey, 1911-13
Calvin Coolidge, Governor of Massachusetts, 1919-20
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Governor of New York, 1929-33
James Earl Carter, Jr., Governor of Georgia, 1971-75
Ronald Wilson Reagan, Governor of California, 1967-75
William Jefferson Clinton, Governor of Arkansas, 1978-80, 1982-92
George Walker Bush, Governor of Texas, 1995-2000

That leaves 23 other presidents, and I'm sure a lot of them were Senators. I think it's more 50/50; thus, Palin being a governor would not work against her.

So, is this bad news?

Elphaba

[gabelpa]

For the rest of the world yes, it's terrifying. The world doesn't need a Dingbat Republican president to follow up the idiot Republican president that was just outed. Bush is seen as a warmongering totalitarian, Palin would only serve to lower the world's opinion of the once-great nation of the USA.

If Obama is still President after 2012, I'll probably move back to America. Hopefully it be a place worth living in again. As it stands now, I don't have the finances to move, fingers crossed that we will be out of this severe economic downturn in a few years.