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Jewish origin to Neph and B MORMON
Posted On 03/16/2012 16:41:37 by marajotown
I was baptized 22 years ago as LDS. Also did my family members. Before I was Muslim, but from Catholics origin. ----------- We went twice into SLCity, one before the Revelation of 1978. -------- Studying the origins of my family and also of the family of my son's mother (not my wife), we concluded we had a Jewish origin. In the case of such son being from Babylon captivity of Jews that refused to return to build the Temple: the Koch'ach(ake). ---------- And in my lineage it came quite clear (?, speculative) that sab'eli people was general for 12 tribes, thus their dispersion may have started from an earlier time/dispersion. -- Probably we had two sab'eli dispersions: --------- sab'eli (as usually "l" is replaced by "r" in Iraq, Iran, India, Pakistan, etc), ..., They are the sab'eri or sab'er or sab'eriah in India and went also to China and Japan, making trade routes. Sab'eri'ah in India means that they are "property, originated from" the sab'eri (or sab'er) from Iran - Iraq region. And going to the other expansion, sab'eri moved to where is Moscow, being the sab'eli'ev, with "ev" meaning descendents of sab'eli. ----------- Thus some of them were living in Greece region, also, when the second group of israelites, generically "named, as if merchandise by Phoenicians and Greeks", as more "sab'eli" people (not as israelites...). ------ Such Jews (2 tribes) were the new tittled/labelled "Sab'eli", sold as captive to the Phoenicians (see JOEL 3:6) as if cattle that were stored in Phoenicia ready to board (nowadays Lebanon). And in great boats they were moved to GRECIA: sold as SLAVES. ----------- There started the arrived people that is known in Book of Mormon as NEPHITES, just one MEMBER of BRANCH of "slaved sab'eli" people living in Greece. See Joel 3:6. And, as defense of their CULTURAL and SPIRITUAL IDENTITY, they improved speaking and writing a "ghetto’s language": the MIXTURE, BLEND of HEBREW, PHOENICIAN (they learned in "nowadays LEBANON") and GREEK. ------- Thus their written language of slaves became stantard and it WAS NOT GREEK, but the SAB'ELI's language in its new hybrid version. Not more in Hebrew, but with so many intact Hebrew aspects, as grammar rules, that survives even in alive modern languages... ------ They are the living languages of my family. Also instead of writing from left to right, it was written from right to left (as in Hebrew) and also so many Greek and Phoenicians words were written in quite "perverted, erratic" way (for Greek people could not read...). ---------------- They, the sab'eli, RUN AWAY from GREECE. This is well documented. This is well told in WRITTEN HISTORY. The problem is that people don't believe in such long available history ("fable?"), since before the days of Jesus Christ... --------------- And thus they started a NEW LAND, where the NEW SAB'ELI language was SPOKEN and WRITEN. But it was decided to completely destroy it by circa some 500 B.C. by some mighty nation and to destroy the "slave origin, mainly from phoenicians--carthage). ---------- As if to destroy any evidences and history of the past, as that the Nephites had departed south and north. ------------ As some 600 BC a branch of the SAB'ELI people departed, one to the North (surviving yet and fighting as Nef'in people, nefitic language is partly surviving...) and ---------- other departed and their history is quite well known in a book written in the language of old (final) SAB'ELI, because it is written in characters of SAB'ELI language, even on plates and carved on stones, ceramics... ---------- and their not translated words have as meaning those of SAB'ELI languages. --------- And also such words and texts, in SAB'ELI, were found across the USA, and are available in museums and in internet literature. ---------- WHO ARE WE? Religious JEWS? I am LDS/Latter Day Saints. ------ I'm shepherd, Israelite member from a very dispersed and hidden people, as if cattle heard. More I could say, as about what I personally found and unearthed: a thing, but above is enough.

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From: marajotown
03/23/2012 15:53:22
SHAZER, ALMA, KIMNOR, KIB, MOSIAH, JAVELIN, etc. possible meaning

SHAZER is just the PHONETIC (corrupted) meaning of the correct translation of CHAZER.
---- It means CHASER (in SAB'ELI and Hebrew: CHA SER an order to live from CHASed Animals

ALMA is the same ALMA from Sab'Eli language (as in ALMA MATTER).

KIB is just the same KIB as in Sab'eli language. (from Arab)

KIMNOR is from alike Greek it could be KIMMOR or KINNOR. It is KiMMor. Thus KiMor (or Kinor) as used brand of seasoning from Switzerland.

JAVELIN is JAV EL IN or IN EL JAV. JAV is from JAVE=Jeovah Humbel hammer from God Jeovah


From: marajotown
03/22/2012 19:57:30
MORONI meaning

MORO + NI

MORO = BITTER (SUFFERING) quite like "MR, without vowels, added after Hebrew dispersion"

NI is quite like N+I (N = SMALL, LITTLE; I = MALE gender) and NI = be "HUMBLE" (small value, little importance).

As it is SAB'ELLI language, that generated the NEPHITIC LANGUAGE, it is read from RIGHT TO LEFT. Thus as if the was Hebrew was read from old days to today. Thus it is NI'MORO.

The meaning of MORONI in its translation to modern days language is:

MORO'NI = HUMBLE BITERED MAN, HUMBLE SUFFERING MAN


From: marajotown
03/21/2012 17:31:12
BOOK OF MORMON

What should it mean MORMON, as in the Book of MORMON?

In fact, if it is from the language of the SAB'ELI people, which came from HEBREW language and just expressed in PHOENICIAN and GREEK alike language and characters (but not exactly in such language, but "alike one", as it is not written from LEFT to RIGHT, and in fact it is quite erratic written, more alike as if written by "the MIRROR" alike, with Hebrew rules).

MORMON in fact means something alike in our MODERN LANGUAGE ---- MON + MORE

MON is the short expression of the SAB'ELLI word MONT that in English was corrupted into MOuNT, but from SAB'ELIAN turned into MOUNT, and yet survives in LATIN originate languages, as in FRENCH LANGUAGE, and in fact the town of PARIS started at the MOUNT of MATRE (which means MOTER), thus started at the MOTHER HILL, MOTHER MOUNT. MOUNT = MOUN which is the same as MONT or MON in SAB'ELI language.

Thus we can see from where it comes the "MON = M O N" and it meaning in Book of Mormon = MOUNT = HILL


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And next we have the meaning, in SAB'ELI, for "MOR = M O R".

M O R remains in plenty of use in SAB'ELI languages that turned into LATIN languages, as into Portuguese Language, for example.

M O R means "THE MOST IMPORTANT, the GREATEST of all (in importance, in power, etc.). Such word MOR came directly from the VERY WORD SAB'ELI language, without any change since then. Thus it came from before the days the Book of Mormon was written.

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Thus the meaning of BOOK OF MORMON is as follow:

Book of the HILL=MOUNT the MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL.

But the Most Important Hill=Mount of ALL for RELIGIOUS PURPOSES, as mentioned in the Book, is Mount Calvary, where something very important took place, for religious purposes.

Thus,

Thue BOOK OF MORMON is linked to the HILL-MOUNT CALVARY, in JERUSALEM, and the RELIGIOUS EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE ON IT.


From: marajotown
03/21/2012 13:07:41
We may guess or reason or SPECULATE that ADAM was MICHAEL in pre-existence or pre-mortal live, when living as spiritual life. And according to the Koran Book, a revelation trough the prophet Muhammad (with so many additions and corruptions and they were even told about and warned by the prophet itself along the text, in such a way, that the people that were to corrupt the text, didn't notice about it...). But this is not the point, as precious parts survive.

One part is that the ONE GOD, the SUPREME BEING, ordered ALL HEAVENLY BEINGS to "worship ADAM, MICHAEL", as if being God, as having DIVINITY ATTRIBUTES. It is clear that SATANAS refused in doing so, in rebelling in doing the worshiping as God to a SPIRIT that was to be made with "inferior material, MUD, MORTAL DECAYING FLESH material". And also a 1/3 of heavenly inhabitants accepted the arguments and rebellion of Satanas and they were cast out from Heaven.

It was very clear that only God beings that could be Worshiped, and as ordered by the Supreme Being. That was the case. In fact Adam, Michael is God, exactly as Jehovah, the First spiritual Son of God was also God in Heaven. That is very clear why they had so greatest call before Elohim, Heavenly Father and Mothers, to organize this Creation, acting as God Creators, having God, the Son, as Head God, and Michael as God in First Hand Executive Position. For those who go in Temple Ceremony, it is very clear that Jehovah was not alone, as God Creator, before Elohim, in the ACT OF CREATION. It is very clear that the COMMAND of CREATION and the ACTION of CREATION was "DUAL", including in the REPORTING about the CREATION as something DONE, FULFILLED, to the ELOHIM, to the FATHER and MOTHERS in HEAVEN. This is in VERY AGREEMENT with the way such ORDERS and REPORST were provided in KORAN BOOK. Also it is in very AGREEMENT with the teachings of BRIGHAM YOUNG about the importance and figure and work of MICHAEL in the plan of CREATION and in the plan of MICHAEL in the organization of humanity in the mortality. There are plenty of OFICIAL discourses and literature/doctrine from Brigham Young on that. For some unknown reasons, they are locked in some same.

It is very clear that the SPIRIT OF ADAM, in so great glory, before all, was covered with the VEIL, with the MANTLE, that COVERED THE GLORY and also made "covered, hidden" the memory from the pre-existence. They remained inside ADAM, inside MICHAEL. Inside MICHAEL remained a GOD, INNACTIVE, as it was to be the case of JESUS, when the God Jehovah transferred all powers and duties of JEHOVAH = COMMANDANT IN CHIEF to his FATHER, the SON OF HOLYNESS, who became thus our JEHOVAH IN CHIEF, our SABAOTH, and thus Jesus God Jehovah turned just as being Jesus God and Jesus became into just JUSUS "GOD" inactive as "dressed the VEIL = CURTAIN" to become a MORTAL and living into the BABY into Mary's womb and already at the very time to be born.

We may speculate Eve as being a female type of “God with Michael", made inactive, very innocent and silly, quite like part of the plan. There are no "goddess", unless the false ones. They have no Roots: must be "grafted" into a Tree of Life, which is Male.


From: marajotown
03/21/2012 11:05:37
We can speculate that pre mortal Jesus, as SPIRITUAL BEING (a LIVING TEMPLE) and God, came into MORTALITY, not in GLORY.

He was living as a God's Living Temple having inside the most ultimate "source" of being the ONE GOD, the SUPREME BEING in the most INNER SACRED of the INNER SACRED SIDE. In it living the ONE GOD, as the SUPREME BEING in most holy INHERITANCE, in the most HOLY of the HOLY INSIDE of the living Temple, Jehovah God. From such God's INNER HOLIEST INSIDE it was the GREATEST TOP POSSIBLE GLORY from the ONE GOD, the SUPREME BEING. The VEIL, CURTAINS, separate THEM that are INTERTWINED as ONE, like at the JUNCTION of GRAFTED BEINS at distinct trees generating just ONE TREE, the DIVINE TREE OF LIFE, ONE BEING impossible to separate...

At the separation of the SPIRITUAL BODY and the MORTAL BODY, we have also similar VEIL or CURTAINS, that "filters" the glory from the SPIRITUAL GLORY into the MORTALITY GLORY, in such a way that almost none God's glory comes to the mortality environment and senses.

Thus when Jehovah God was as if to IMMERSE into the MORTALITY, to be surrounded by the mortal body, he was "covered, surrounded" by the VEIL, CURTAINS of MORTALITY. Thus all God's glory was kept "inside" the veil. Also, for others, a similar VEIL is imposed, and all their spiritual GLORY is retained under the VEIL, the CURTAINS, including the VEIL retain the memory of glorious days events that now are hold back. Except if ordered something to release to him leaking through the "curtains".

For sure Jesus was not in “conference” or remembering about all Universe details when a small kid, as when breast feed in his mother or acting as normal kid playing with other children. The commandant in chief of Universe was God Jehovah. It is quite possible he had a sweet girl and maybe had a family/son(s), as everybody normal mortal duty.


From: marajotown
03/20/2012 08:25:27
03/17/2012 09:17:18
It is possible that we have seen and evaluated nephites language and culture through a very "narrow" viewpoint, quite extremist and very separatist. As if they had started "from nothing". And without interaction with local people - society - cultures - religions... For sure that was almost erased from the accounts or through the interpretation of them. They were/are not important.

One interesting/intriguing point for a former Islam (Muslim) person is the possible relationship of them with the "Arabs" and their culture and religion. Quite like of Joseph with Jethro: the source of God's priesthood and other blessing to Israel people.

It is quite speculative, but it appears the BOOK OF ABRAHAM that showed up among the LDS is the same BOOK OF ABRAHAM mentioned as being true one in KORAN BOOK, the sacred one received by Muhammad.

But it appears that the BOOK OF ABRAHAM made available to LDS is the "blend, composition" of two documents.

A) - One being quite like a "cover up", quite like for "illustration, but VERY FALSE", origination from mummy the LDS bought, with high prices, from late Egyptian period and made by VERY FALSE RELIGIOUS EGYPTIAN CORRUPTED PRIESTS (with very false teachings about the Book of Dead and fooling the guardians at the door of the World of Spirits...)

B) - The other quite true and correct one, being already a translation, into nephitic language, from the original text of the Abraham's text, that originally was in Egypt, and as used for corrupted purposes and thus "perverted" into plenty available papyrus in mummies, as the one the LDS bought. But in fact such papyrus text were used only to illustration and fooling

Thus we can reason the Book of Abraham is not linked to the Book of Dead or linked to the expressions like the Egyptian believes or believed. Abraham only taught what was true by itself and not trying to make syncretism and parallelism with Egyptian religion. Abraham was quite like an Islamist expressing Koran...

For sure Koran Book say there are many Gods (as Supreme Servants from the Supreme Being...) and that Jesus is the Son of God but not the Son of the Supreme Being. Even it is implicit that Adam in pre-existence, in rebellion in Heaven, was "God" Michael... and that in some ceremony all had to worship toward God Michael. Lucifer and his companions refused and turned into rebellion.

Thus, it is clear that Book of Abraham expresses the complete truth plus some "ideas/teachings added by the Egyptian Religion" and they are quite clear. The Book is clear about that some things came "from the Egyptians", NOT from Abraham's teaching. We could say they came quite like from the "catacombs" (undergrounds) of Egypt, in Nephi’s days, when they were building that so huge and long navigation deep channel to the Pharaoh and they had build the town NEPHiCH that yet remains ALIVE in Egypt... So nearby as if it is impossible to separate Nephi from ISMAIL and Nephich (now Naphich, NAfich) from Ismailiah town. NEPHI and ISMAIL remain together, as it was 2,600 years ago... This is as Joseph and Jethro remains together also, after so longer time. But LDS are not able to understand. The God is the same. The tribes of Israel and of Ishmael came from the same father. Having the same God. They forgot about Genesis chapter 49, of JACOB blessing his sons through ISRAEL lineage. But his sons through ISMAEL lineage are also blessed. Ishmael is the son who saw ANGELS, including his mother...See Genesis, Chapter 25:12-18. Ishmael was a "special" head man.


Book KORAN (from Islamic prophet Mohammad)

CHAPTER 97 of KORAN BOOK:
It is titled KADR: this meaning is unknown (as KOLOB).
It is speculated it means fate, fatality. As we have only some “freedom, in mortality”, as we are not able to know future events, as when God decided we are to die. Thus we are subject to absolute God’s will, but that is not already “determined, inevitable” in our life events. We have “free will to decide”, as Job, what to do.

In the name of God, the CLEMENT, the MERCIFUL."(not of Supreme Being... GOD here is SINGULAR BEING, ONE rules you...)"

97.1 Yes, "WE" revealed the KORAN in the night of Kadr,
(**KADR is not an Earthly mortal event;
Notice that "ONE GOD" is "PLURAL=WE" (God is one, under the Supreme Being; Jesus God is under God Heavenly Father, Man of Holiness) but "ONE GOD" is talking through the "Verb=Mouth": God Jehovah. Thus phrase starts with GOD, the "ONE GOD", as HE continues to talk in same phrase!) Through His "VERB".

97.2 And what do you know about the night of Kadr?

97.3 The night of Kadr is worth more than one thousand months.

97.4 In it, the angels and the spirit come down, by the order of your Lord = ruler = king (God Jehovah), with all His (God Jehovah) decrees.

97.5 It is peace up to the disrupt of dawn.

NOTICE: to simplify reason the night as 0.5 Lord's day for Kadr.

By the Revelation: 1 KADR NIGHT = 1,000 months = 1,000/12 = 83.3 years … (!!!!) EXPONENTIAL LAW

Usually people thing that 0.5 God’s day = 0.5 x (1,000 years) = 500 years …

It is clear that we are before an EXPONENTIAL RELATIONSHIP between God’s time and Mortality time.

If instead of 0.5 God’s day time we use 1.5 God’s day time, we are to have a HUGE TIME, much GREATER than 1.5 x (1,000 years) = 1,500 years of mortality. Thus for 7 God’s day time, as of Creation, we are to have a WORTH time in mortality much greater than 7 x (1,000) = 7,000 years of mortality. Thus there is a great MISTAKE in the idea that the UNIVERSE was “organized” just some 7,000 years worth of mortality, back. Where is the mistake?

Who did say the relationship Heavenly time x Terrestrial time is based on a linear (arithmetic) relationship? Book of Abraham is saying that such is NOT SUCH THE CASE !!!! .

Also SCIENCE is clearly saying the relationship is EXPONENTIAL, as in above computation of 83.3 years x 500 years and growing exponentially with God’s time departing from base value of 1.0. Where is the mistake? In the Book of Abraham, and somebody made a tiny copy mistake a very long time ago. It is in LDS translation (version).

The MISTAKE is now REJECTED very strongly almost everywhere by everybody, even by not learned people. Except by some extremists religious. Even the equation on that relationship is provided in Book of Abraham, but a little misprint was introduced and that is to be shown in next comment. From it comes (result) the correct relationship of God's time x Mortality time. I am professor since 1968 and I almost retired as University Professor (but returned to duty...) and I have seen plenty of such "little mistakes" that made great disturbances in final results...


From: marajotown
03/19/2012 21:30:06
GOD, the ONE GOD, the SUPREME BEING, just ONE,

inhabit in each God, Supreme Divine Proxy and Servant of The ONE GOD (SUPREME BEING).

THE GOD and Gods are just ONE, impossible to separate, even being DISTINCT.

They are as if "GRAFTED" Beings,
living together, interlinked and intertwined,
that became, for ever, as just "ONE",
as if joined by a living tissue since a given time event.

The ONE GOD and each God are just "ONE", as if they became the "ONE TREE OF LIFE". And as result all Gods are also just "ONE", the "ONE GOD" (it is not possible to separate all and each Gods from the SUPREME BEING...), the "ONE TREE OF LIFE". And thus any two or more "God" from continuing being "ONE", from continuing something "living, alive" in the "ONE TREE OF LIFE", the ONE GOD's symbolism. We are to provide figures on that to make it "visible", as symbolic examples, logic ones. If allowed.

We can reason as any and each and all Divine God being a LIVING TEMPLE for the
SUPREME GLORY of the SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD, inhabit "inside",
as if as at the most holy of the holy of the earthly temples described in Scriptures
and already built for the benefit of the men, since Moses' days,
with all the symbolic meanings described.

Now the God's LIVING TEMPLE, which are the Divine Beings symbolism, for those who are Gods, Supreme Servants and Supreme Proxy (Male and Female=as wives), are as living
walls, floors, ceilings, curtains, etc. of the LIVING TEMPLE.

All from us, as our WORSHIPS and PRAYS, only reach the SUPREME BEING, ONE GOD, through
Gods intervention working as "Gods PRIESTS, with Divinity Priesthood".

The ultimate judgment and decision is from THE GOD. And Gods act as if Lawyers providing supreme plea, suplicate, in favor of each and all of us. As if in SUPREME COURT (no appeal beyond it is possible, in higher court).

We can reason that as the difference we have between the TEMPLE itself and the Jehovah God living inside the Temple, in the most sacred of it, in the most holy of the holy,

we have as similarity the case of the Gods Divine Being Body being as the LIVING DIVINE BEING themselves (the "God", Supreme Being's Divine Servant) and the SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD, at the most Holy of Holy, surrounded by "curtains", and being at the greatest "glory".

With Moses having to wear "curtain like" cloth before his face to attenuate and hide the "residual glory" on his face because had contact with Jehovah's God in GLORY...

Into the most sacred of the Living TEMPLE who are the Gods, quite like into Terrestrial Temples symbolism (for Jehovah lives), we have living SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD, into the most SUPREME GLORY. Any mortal man can't support SEE the full such Supreme Glory and remain in mortal life.

EXCEPT if such GLORY is attenuated through the "curtains", BEING "FILTERED" in such a way that only a small fraction is filtered out through it by the effect of controlled "transparency", lesser or greater.

Thus, as Moses saw and talked with, the ONE GOD's glory is seen as "fire" that "burns" but in fact there is no burning taking place. Thus it is not seen the "Supreme Glory of the Supreme Being" but only a very attenuated shadow of such Being.

The ONE GOD, SUPREME BEING, is not "slave" of supreme creation, organized and provided through the Gods, Supreme Being's Gods, Divine Servants, originated from Supreme Being as "Divine Proxy and Verbs" since ALPHA, from endless time, before all Gods existed...


From: marajotown
03/19/2012 15:49:19
THE SUPREME BEING as the SUPREME "ONE GOD" and the Beings Who are distinct Gods, Who are just ONE with the "ONE GOD" and among Themselves. What is the ONE GOD and Who are the Gods?

How are Them interlinked and intertwinement as to become just "ONE", as if a living tissue?

The "problem" of THE ONE GOD, SUPREME BEING, as just "THE ONE" (UNICITY), is very old among the SAB'ELI people, because they are the SABaoth's "MY GOD" people, ISRAELITE PEOPLE, living under a camouflage of "strange culture and language and religion", thus not following the Moses' law. Living as if being the Pagan people, mixed with them. And worshiping all type of pagan idols, as STONES and WOOD made ones, in pagan like religions, and eating prohibited meat from prohibited animals.

BUT it was clear in OLD TESTAMENT that such "dispersed, lost" ISRAELITES, the SABELLIS, not more knowing about SABaoth's religion and about the 12 tribes of Israel and bout Moses' ORDINANCES... that EVEN SO, they were to continue ISRAELITES, SAB'eli, before SABaoth's eyes. For sure they were HIDDEN before the eyes of those practicing Moses' covenant: just being PAGAN people.

But before the LORD, before JEHOVAH God, before LORD SABAOTH, they continued to be JACOB'ITEs, living STONES (blood, SEED) from ISRAEL. They continued to be KRYPT ISRAELITES, and their other name was SAB'ELI=Hebrews

Some of them worried about THE SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD, the SUPREME ONE GOD,

The "I AM" (always existing, from "alpha to omega", Gods "had a start")
WHAT I AM (it is not said that SUPREME is "WHO" (as if a "being = person)
As composing the I AM. And Old Bible itself, the revelation to Moses, mix up, in the way it is read, the ONE SUPREME GOD with "ONE God, just ONE GOD's Supreme Servant = Jehovah"


http://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/ex/13?lang=eng

13 And Moses said unto God (SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD, is in all GODS), Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?

14 And God (SUPREME BEING) said unto Moses, I Am (THE ONE GOD, ALLWAYS EXISTING) That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

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This is the PERFECT IDENTIFICATION of the SUPREME BEING, the Supreme "ONE GOD", acting from all and any God, their supreme servant and being in all of them: they are ONE.

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People made confusion. The "Supreme Angel, Supreme Servant, Supreme Divine Proxy" of the ONE GOD, of the SUPREME BEING, in charge of implementing the ONE GOD's decisions, was before and visible before MOSES: BEFORE GOD. Who had made so great things for Israel and for this Creation, including ORGANIZED the Universe...

Thus next it is told to Moses about the Supreme Angel=JEHOVAH=SABAOTH had done and was to do with Egypt, as ASSIGNEMENT and DUTY/PROMISE from ONE GOD's decisions.

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15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: THE SUPREME BEING, the SUPREME ONE GOD, can't appear to us, in MORTALITY... unless before God's veil.

17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey.

18 And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now clet us go, we beseech thee, three days’ journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the Lord our God.

19 And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand.

20 And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go.

21 And I will give this people favour in the sight of the Egyptians: and it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty:

22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.


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In Rome a Sab'Eli priest discussed very much much apostate Catholic theologians that there was just ONE GOD, some type of idea that sounded like an attempt to introduce the JUDAISM theology back into the Christianism at its birth, at its start in Rome and Roman Empire. It is quite clear that such type of "idea and ideal" could be logic from a crypt Hebrew = crypt Israelite people living in Rome since over 1.5 thousand years... and in fact that settled Rome with the Sab'Eli people that had run-away from Greece (see Joel 3:6) and that was basically a Hebrew people speaking and writing a language mixture of Phoenician, Greek and Hebrew, with a lot of Hebrew rules and Grammar. Also some conceptions of Divinity from old classic Greece were kept by the Sab'eli and mixed with the Hebrew/Israelite ones....

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As the SAB'ELI from ROME (nearby) generated two groups of emigrants, one that moved North (and still is ALIVE, speaking some of the left NEPHITIC, they are the NEPH'in) and the other moved to South and settled a town in Egypt named NEPHi'CH, which yet is ALIVE, and from there they moved to Jerusalem. Thus it is "natural" that the CORRECT IDEAS from the SAB'ELI about the THEOLOGY on DIVINITY, separating SUPREME BEING and Beings as Distinct Gods, had survived with such "South Group of Emigrants", going to AmeriKa. Also we can see that, in what/where it was not corrupted, in the Islamic/Arab Book named Koran, by the prophet Muhammad.

Let us see the case of the BOOK OF MORMON that in fact is a kind of book of SAB'ELI's:

In chapter 11, AMULEK contents with ZEEZROM about the existence of SUPREME BEING and with SUPREME BEING being the "ONE GOD". It is usual that LDS people, not being SAB'ELI and not having the millenary theological experience, THINK that the dispute is about the existence of ONE GOD x MANY GODS.

When in fact the dispute is about:
-the existence of NONE SUPREME BEING (denial of it) and thus the NO EXISTENCE OF GOD

-the existence of JUSTE ONE SUPREME BEING and thus of the existence of just ONE GOD.

It is evident that the EVIL SPIRIT made all type of attempts to have victory in the thesis that there is none SUPREME BEING and thus not the ONE GOD. For that was used all the weapons, including the BRIBERIES ATTEMPTS.

But at the end it became very clear there is JUST the ONE SUPREME BEING (not BeingS, plural) and thus there is just ONE GOD related to such ONE SUPREME BEING. See 11:28 is asking about "is there more than one God"? It is asking about the existence of the ONE GOD linked to the 11:28. “I will give thee if thou wilt DENY THE EXISTENCE OF A SUPREME BEING. Notice that it is singular, not BeingS, but just "It is a supreme BeinG". And the final answer, 11:29 is that there is no more than "ONE SUPREME GOD, ONE GOD" related to the SUPREME BEING, the object of the discussion, to the dispute, to the attempt of bribery.

There is just a SUPREME BEING, the ONE GOD (the SUPREME GOD).

BOOK OF MORMON, ALMA 11:22-29


From: marajotown
03/18/2012 18:44:53
The SAB'ELI, SAB'ERI, SAB'ELIev, SAB'ELA, ... (NEPH-in) are in the "BACK" and ORGANIZER of the GREAT and ABOMINABLE CHURCH, as the one organized during JESUS' DAYS as "church"...

That is very easy to understand, because the SAB'ELI, meaning the "head" of "Israelite people", as if "hidden and disperse tribes, people", living as if "normal pagan people", and among them, where spread so vast geographic area and holding political and religious power. Quite like "secret organization", as it was intertwined with other normal people.

We can understand that by the fact that the Main OLD Roman people were of SAB'ELI people, as they were SABINE people, that is just a "branch" of SAB'ELI people (quite like Israelite speaking and writing some version of mixture of "Hebrew, Greek and Phoenician", but distinct of any of such languages... quite like by the "mirror", as Leonardo da Vince used it...). In fact SAB'I'NE is SABaoth + I=male + NE=corruption of NI = "humble" and read from right to left. Thus they were a people from SABAOTH: "ISRAELITE PEOPLE, SAB'ELI's people as branch...". Thus, understand the RAPT OF SABINES.

The religions of ROME, before Christ, were MANY, but ruled political and religiously by SABINE (SAB'ELI) "priests" (by ISRAELITES... apostate ones, of ABOMINABLE CHURCH). When Christian Church arrived into Rome, by Apostle Paul, and they "saw" it was to become too strong in Rome and in across the "Empire", the GREAT AND ABOMINABLE CHURCH concluded that it was time to act. And ordered the Apostate Sab'i'niS and Sab'eliS PRIESTS to

"Convert" into the Paul's = Christ's CHRISTIANISM in Rome and Empire, quite suddenly, backed by POLITICAL SUPPORT from the HEAD OF THE EMPIRE. I went in the VATICAN some times and I checked in Internet...

As result, a PAGAN RELIGIOUS CHURCH that I visited in Rome, in one week celebrated a PAGAN cult in one WEEK.

And in the NEXT WEEK, with the CONVERTED (BAPTIZED to CHRISTIANISM) SAB'ELI and SAB'I'NI PRIESTS (from Pagan’s ones), THEY CELEBRATED CHRISTIANISM CULTS. Thus started the "CATHOLIC RELIGION and CHURCH", the ABOMINABLE CHURCH THAT SPREAD ALL OVER THE EMPIRE, because the SAB'ELIs PRIESTS (successors of old important SAB'ELI pagan priests) BECAME THE NEW TOP RANKING RULES of the NEW POLITICAL-RELIGIOUS RELIGION OF THE EMPIRE. THUS THE NEW "POPES" OF SUCH ROMAN-RELIGION, FOR THE NEXT 5 CENTURIES, BECAME

SAB-ELI, with open surnames, or of being from SAB-ELI lineages. Something easy to discover searching the VATICAN files. Also it is easy to discover that the CARDINALS and other high rank level authorizes of the GREAT and ABOMINABLE Church=(Political and Administrative and Military organization also) were of SAB-ELI people and its branches (as Sab'i'ni and pis'ciS and sam'n'ites, etc.). Pontius Pilates was an ISRAELITE, of just a BRANCH from the SAB'ELI people. Jesus recognized him as just a crypt-Israelite...

SAB'ELI in Turkey was also "active" and created a "division" from Rome's Church, also ruled by the Sab'eli. The same took place in Greece (by the "original Sab'eli") and in Russia (by the Sab'eli'EV) and generating a Church was a source of political and military power, of corruption, of colonial domain, etc. Religion was a secondary thing.


From: marajotown
03/18/2012 10:25:02
Jesus Christ was born, lived and died as Isaiah 53: to be mightiest "god = God's servant"

18 Which suffering caused myself, even God living as "god" (Isaiah 53) ("God" living as "god = servant, prophet"; he was God but decided to suffer as PROPHET=mortal MAN as just a "LAMB": see John), the greatest (not as God but "god"=PROPHET, greatest SERVANT=Isaiah 53:11 Because of the "strength, blessing" brought and given him by the Angel, in the Gethsemane, Jesus obtained so greatest STRENGTH and POWER to support the suffering up to the Cross death. Quite like the SAMSON to be able to make destructions including the Pagan Temple and causing his deliberated death by the collapse of it, for that requiring over-human effort. Such over-human power and strength of Samson (quite like of Jesus) was promised since before the birth of Samson, but coupled to some restrictions.

Abinadi and also other prophets = "gods" received such "special" blessings (IF REQUIRED)

to have special over-human capacities and protections. For sure in case of Jesus SOME OF THEM ARE LISTED IN PSALMS and others were provided in GHETSEMANE: FOR JESUS SUPPORT SO EXTREME SUFFERING.

They ended when Jesus prayed, TO JEHOTHA GOD of JESUS (HEAVENLY FATHER God) for them end, be removed. Only them Jesus could die as any mortal man: maybe quite like Samson.

In such way, with such "blessing and protection", as from God Jehovah (Heavenly Father) through the Angel in Gethsemani, is that Jesus could suffer so intense suffering without dyieing, in a very unimaginably high level (spiritual and material) so intense level, quite like Abinadi, suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—

You can see in SHAZER so great difference and mistake was caused by so tiny changes of letter in SHAZER in relation to CHAZER: S C and Z S

And in D&C 19:18, We can see the same great difference and mistake caused by so tiny changes of letter in Jesus in mortality as being mightiest "God" when in fact lived just as being the "greatest of all gods", thus Jesus was just "god". Thus the change:
People thing Jesus lived and acted as "God" when lived as "god". Changed "G" by "g".


What is the "mistake" in BOOK OF ABRAHAM in relation to the CHANGE OF LETTERS? MANY.
Because it came not directly from the hands of ABRAHAM, but from MANY HANDS of corrupt Egypt Priests making all evil use of Abraham's teaching, and making changes in each copy and trying to make syncretism of Abraham's teachings and previous copy versions with changing Egyptian religion theologies.

From A FACSIMILE FROM THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM, No. 2,
EXPLANATIONS
Fig.1. Kolob, signifying the first creation, nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. First in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit (------ IT IS NOT "CUbit" BUT TO THE "CUBIC", LITTLE "MISTAKE" THIS IS ADDED, CORRUPTION BY EGYPTIAN PRIESTS: SYNCRETHISM CELESTIAL TIME SIGNIFIES THE HEAVENLY DAY TO A "CUBIC" "(according Kolob equation)". Thus for Heavenly Day equals to One Day the Kolob Equation yields 1,000 years measured according the time of our Earth.(-- Jah-oh-eh is a false addition of apostate Egyptian priests through hundred of years).

Kolob Equation = 10^3 * 10^(1+(T-1)*0,71945)) solved for KADR's condition 1,000 month

" =10^3 * 10^(1+(T-1)*0,398671737)) solved for T=7 creation days get 15 billions years



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